ASP Batons

[evan price]

First, I understand ASP batons require proper training and instruction in their use. This is not a matter of application of force training. I also understand that batons are not appropriate for someone without correct training.

What are the specifics relating to carrying an ASP baton? Is this a CCW? Is it legal in most states? Are there restrictions to carrying one? Is it legal to do so?

Thanks.

 

[hoji]

It really depends on your state. In Texas they are considered a prohibited weapon unles you are a LEO or Security Officer on duty.

 

[Ricebrnr]

same in Michigan

 

[ProguninTN]

State

Yes, it depends on the state. In my state, one must obtain a certification before he/she may carry it.

 

[Bigreno]

I am not certain of the laws in Ohio. Here in Texas it is illegal to carry.

If legal and you intend on carrying one I would highly recomend getting some training. Being ASP certified myself I can attest to their extreme lethality if used incorrectly.

 

[Limeyfellow]

In North Carolina they are prohibited too. Likely to end up getting shot in a few counties by the sheriff's department.

 

[ctdonath]

Legal in Georgia, illegal in New York.

I find it best-of-all-worlds weapon (as I have a few years of Kali - Filipino stick fighting): ranges from a gentle deflection to a crushing blow, collapsing nicely into a back pocket. In GA it's about the only thing really legal just about anywhere (guns verboten in alcohol-serving and/or public gathering places, weapon-style knives technically forbidden). Major factor is not being noxious area-of-effect (i.e.: pepper spray), which could harm my asthmatic dog.

 

[psyopspec]

In ND you're covered if you have a CCW. I used to carry mine when I didn't have a way to deep conceal a firearm. It rests on my night stand now.

 

[kd7nqb]

In Oregon you need a certification, its normally rolled into the training we get for OC Spray and Cuffs. Also in many LEO's opinion the ASP is a POS and not worth risking your safety on. I have never used one so I cant really comment too deeply.

 

[heypete]

In California, the carriage of a baton is a more serious crime than the carriage of a concealed firearm. (felony vs. misdemeanor for a first time offense, assuming no other crimes were committed at the time of the infraction)

Not sure about Arizona.

 

[gunsmith]

do not carry one in CA

Felony, I have a permit for one though because I used to be a security guard.

 

[Spreadfire Arms]

legal in Florida with your Florida CWP (Concealed Weapons Permit). that is the permit you need to carry a firearm, impact weapon, or even pepper spray.

that being said i think the only training you need to submit is documented firearms training. i dont think, but correct me if im wrong, you need to have any certified ASP training to legally carry an ASP in Florida otherwise.

 

[AndyC]

Weird - we need certifications and permits in order to carry what amounts to a collapsible stick? Oy vey...

 

[wdlsguy]

How about Illinois?

 

[Zero_DgZ]

Weird - we need certifications and permits in order to carry what amounts to a collapsible stick? Oy vey...

Saints forbid you get your hands on a non-collapsible, solid metal assault stick.

 

[hso]

KY is ok if you have a weapons carry permit.

You've got to look it up for your particular state.

 

[detcord]

cali

technically legal in california...law mentions billy clubs and saps, only mention of baton in all of california state law pertains to the manufacture of them.

in my one encounter with law enforcement while carrying my 21" asp, he simply placed it in my truck while talking to me.

 

[Robo_Railer]

Maine law

I think it would qualify as a dangerous weapon under Title 17-A, but I can't find anything prohibiting it. There are some offenses that are aggravated/elevated if committed while the perpetrator is armed with or uses a dangerous weapon. Otherwise, I don't even see a restriction for someone prohibited from possession of a firearm or crossbow (15 M.R.S.A. §393). It appears that it would be legal, as long as it's not misused or in the possession of someone committing certain other criminal offenses.

9. Dangerous weapon.
A. "Use of a dangerous weapon" means the use of a firearm or other weapon, device, instrument, material or substance, whether animate or inanimate, which, in the manner it is used or threatened to be used is capable of producing death or serious bodily injury.

B. "Armed with a dangerous weapon" means in actual possession, regardless of whether the possession is visible or concealed, of:
(1) A firearm;
(2) Any device designed as a weapon and capable of producing death or serious bodily injury; or
(3) Any other device, instrument, material or substance, whether animate or inanimate, which, in the manner it is intended to be used by the actor, is capable of producing or threatening death or serious bodily injury. For purposes of this definition, the intent may be conditional.

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