Assault Machetes

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Not about guns, per se, so this has to go here. I have no comment. It would be like too easy.

http://www1.whdh.com/news/articles/local/B50722/

Police See Surge In Gang Attacks Using Machetes


BOSTON -- Police say they are seeing a surge in the number of gang-related attacks involving machetes, the huge knives that are a ubiquitous tool in rural Latin America, with blades as thick as an axe and nearly as long as a sword.

The troubling trend has led some departments to crack down on machetes, and not just in urban areas. Some suburban communities have also enacted new laws to ban the knives.

Last month, during a sweep of gang members in Boston, Lynn, Revere, Chelsea, Everett and Somerville, police seized not just machetes, but more exotic weapons, including Chinese throwing stars and a Japanese metal chain whip.

But machetes, which can be easily obtained at garden stores or over the Internet, are by far the most popular of the alternative weapons.

The surge in machete attacks has gained less attention than recent gun-related homicides in Boston parks, despite a spate of attacks that have left at least four Massachusetts men hospitalized this spring and summer from machete wounds.

"It seems to be that machetes are the weapon of choice," Detective Brian Kyes, a spokesman for the Chelsea Police, told The Boston Globe. "In the past couple of years, we've confiscated at least 50 machetes that have been used in crimes in the city."

Some Hispanic community leaders say the use of machetes in crime has tarnished the image of a useful tool used to cut sugarcane or clear underbrush.

"For people in El Salvador, the machete is not looked at as a weapon," said Luis Morales, who grew up in El Salvador. He is now the pastor at the Vida Real Evangelical Center in Somerville.

Members of Boston's Hispanic community often hang machetes on living room walls as a reminder of home or gardening.

Some say they are dismayed that the machete is increasing being seen a weapon.

"What about baseball bats? They are also used in gang-related attacks. Even a shoe can be considered a weapon if someone uses it to hit someone else," Morales said. (AP)
 
When machetes are outlawed only Tutsis will have machetes? :confused: How's that go again?
 
Some American community leaders say the use of firearms in crime has tarnished the image of a useful tool used for personal defense or recreation.


I thought at first this article was from The Onion!
 
Since I discovered the kukri (with John Shirley's enthusiastic assistance) I'm beginning to prefer them over machetes... check out some of the beauties here! One of the biggest:


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Members of Boston's Hispanic community often hang machetes on living room walls as a reminder of home or gardening. Some say they are dismayed that the machete is increasing being seen a weapon."What about baseball bats? They are also used in gang-related attacks. Even a shoe can be considered a weapon if someone uses it to hit someone else," Morales said...

Looks like somebody gets it (on the topic of machetes anyway, he's probably as anti-gun as the next Bostonian).



Their news reporter needs to seriously work on either his investigatory or his descriptive skills...

...with blades as thick as an axe and nearly as long as a sword...

I've seen my share of machetes and never seen one with a blade thicker than a quarter inch. More likely one eighth of an inch. A machete with a blade as thick as an axe would weigh 30 or 40 pounds.
 
Well, I admit that when we first moved to Texas in 81 or 82, there was a security guard at an apartment complex about a quarter mile from where we lived that was hacked to pieces by two guys from El Salvador. All politics and banning aside, it left a lasting impression.

Having said that, I fear the guy that walks into a McDonalds with a shorty AK a whole lot more than the guy with a machete.

Still, those Cold Steel machetes are impressive tools for the price.
 
Yeah, machete blades are typically thinner than most knives, as they're meant to clear brush, not for heavy chopping.

A good kukri will give more versatility than an ax, and more chopping power than a machete.

John
 
I'll bet they don't vibrate and make your fingers numb when you're swinging them either. Is a Kukri any good for small limbing John?

I've been doing a lot of grubbing out roots and small stumps clearing out some land (I'm expanding my yard) lately and using a small little Finnish hatchet called a Fiskars. It's razor sharp and works great but I'd like something with a longer blade, though not nearly as big as a machete. I was also thinking about one of those south american knives that have kind of paddle shaped blades.

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There are several different kinds of machetes on the market... The Cold Steel Bolo has a rather thick blade. They also have a heavy machete though I've not handled one.

Friskars is a Finnish company best known for scissors, in case you didn't know. Very respectable quality for the price.
 
Stand_Watie, the kuk is an ideal small limber. Excellent all-around kuks for general usage would be BAS (15"), 16.5" WWII, and 18" Chitlangi. I have used both of the latter two extensively, mostly on brush, but also on trees up to about 5" in diameter. (Axes work better for thick trees. :) ) Preacherman ordered two BAS models recently. He sounds very pleased with them.

If you want something heavier, an AK, GRS, or 18" WWII might be up your alley.

This is most of what I cut in an hour, at the end of last semester:
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John
 
I know you get what you pay for, but for someone just wanting to check them out without dropping $150 on one (though I'm sure they're worth it), how are some of the ebay jobbies going for under $20 to $25? Seems as if the steel is decent, it is of full tang construction and the handle is properly sized/fitted, you should be good to go as far as function is concerned, if not quite beauty.

I know a bit about knives, but haven't really paid much attention to the Khukuri/Kukri. I'm obviously not expecting perfection, but do the $20 Kurki compare to, say, a $15 Cold Steel Machete for light chopping?
 
cratz, you can get those Cold Steel machetes for about $8 to $12 at wholesalehunter.com. Just got the catalog today, so this was fresh in my mind, and the prices are very good. In case you're interested.
 
mach's

Just a note for those who may be interested........in Cabelas catalog..and their website.......they offer what they call a "brush cutter"......which looks just like a short two handed sword. Have actually seen one in person.....made in america....was told by the owner.that it held an edge fairly well.....
 
QC can be variable (whadda ya want for $10), but most are good blades. Handles need to be smoothed and shaped at times. But compared to a Collins or a Barteaux these things are a bargain.
 
Kukri

Guy that invented the Kukri did a wonderful job. It is a better than a hatchet for cutting thru thicker limbs, will cut thin stuff with the greater speed you get. The angle of the handle to the cutting edge makes the work easy on the wrist, and gives you the ability to hit hard and fast with it.
Best bargain in a Kukri IMO is the Indian model made for British army. It came with a certificate of authenticity and a drawing showing the area of hardened steel that comprises the cutting edge. It only cost $20 and sharpens to a razor's edge with a lot of work. However, think of a razor edge hitting with the weight of a 3/16 thick blade. It will cut thru a 4" thick limb in fairly short order. Any long blade such as a machete would be formidable when used on soft human (as proven in Africa), but for tougher things like trees, shrubs, I would take the Kukri every time.
I take a Kukri with me every time I am in the outdoors, and find it the best all around tool ever, with sharpness for the finest slicing if called on. Roast beef? No problem. Yet, I still feel that I have a great defensive weapon if necessity should occur. Cold Steel and some others make good ones but they are more pricey, but better looking. Not necessarily better, except possibly in handle construction.
 
I'll always regret not buying the commercial version of the Predator Machete as used in the movie Predator. The original was designed by (I think) Jack Crain and to have him make you one was a very costly proposition. Frost Cutlery very briefly offered an authorized factory-made copy which was in the $500-ish range. Unhappily enough, I was laid off at the time and that was far more money than I could spare for a wall-hanger. Still, when I saw the title of this thread, that was the blade that sprang to mind.
 
Woodsman's Pal makes a great machete. I use it backpacking and it is better than a Khukri in that the flat-tip can be used as a shovel to clear fire-pits and the like. They run about $60 and are well worth it.

Ash
 
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