Machete Control already taking hold in the US

[Herself]

...We need to set up the gallows on the statehouse steps now; we can start with machete-weilding criminal gang members, then move on the "lawmakers" and members of the judical branch violating the inherent human right to self-defense. After perfectly fair trails for all of them, of course.

Bilge. Sheer and utter bilge. The contents of my car on the way to work -- sharp and pointy tools, a big wooden mallet, rope, tape, a prybar -- would get me haled up on charges in a good many States of the Union (and no few in the South, for that matter). And it's just stuff I use at work! It's insane. (Then there's the lead/tin solder, already banned in Europe. How long before it's verboten here, too? Not very).

I'm glad I'm 47. You younger people, you're going to have to spend your later years in a far worse country than I will: it'll either be a very controlling place or one that's going though an "agonizing reappraisal." No thanks. I don't care to be around for either.

--Herself

 

[MinMAN]

I was once pulled over for speeding in Beverly, Massachusetts in 1997 with a machete in the back seat. The State Trooper saw it and asked me why I had it. I said, "it's a martial arts training aid." I got off with a warning.

LOL Did one of the "Super Troopers" pull you over? ROFL

 

[captain obvious]

You mean that mass machete control bill is for REAL?



I am speechless.


First they came for the coffee cans, and I said nothing because I drink tea,
Then they came for the machetes....

 

[Camp David]

reading this thread convinced me of one thing:

I'm headed out this evening to buy a few machettes before they are outlawed!!!

 

[scbair]

Some posters mentioned rocks as lethal weapons. I bet Mass has already banned my "Ernest T. Bass-autographed" assault rock sack, made of genuine burlap, with a military style over-the-shoulder strap.

 

[LAR-15]

Remember the Federal switchblade act of 1957?

 

[Carl N. Brown]

The survival gun carried in the Russian Soyuz Spacecraft
uses a detachable machete with end cap and edge guard
as its shoulder stock. DOUBLEPLUSUNGOOD.

 

[roo_ster]

"They'll take my machete when they pry it out of their cold, dead brainpan."

 

[tellner]

So much is context.

Softball bat sitting in the back seat of the car on top of a pile of Rahowa! CDs and untreated effluent from 14 Words Press? Bad.

Softball bat sitting in the back seat with glove, ball and baseball cap? You haven't cleaned your car out since the season ended. (I haven't cleaned mine out since the late Triassic).

Machete by itself? Hmm.

Machete, folding shovel, flashlight, gallon of water and jug of kitty litter? Prepared driver.

 

[Devonai]

LOL Did one of the "Super Troopers" pull you over? ROFL

I appreciate the reference, but I've worked with Mass State Troopers on a professional basis and they're a pretty squared-away bunch. This one saw the machete for what it was at the time, a perfectly legal tool sitting in the backseat of a car in an otherwise unremarkable traffic stop. I suppose some people would get bent out of shape being asked about it at all, but a cop has a right to ask those kind of questions.

 

[MinMAN]

Quote:
LOL Did one of the "Super Troopers" pull you over? ROFL

I appreciate the reference, but I've worked with Mass State Troopers on a professional basis and they're a pretty squared-away bunch. This one saw the machete for what it was at the time, a perfectly legal tool sitting in the backseat of a car in an otherwise unremarkable traffic stop. I suppose some people would get bent out of shape being asked about it at all, but a cop has a right to ask those kind of questions.

I meant no disrespect. I just couldn't resist the humor in it though. In the movie "Super Troopers" were from Mass. Just a funny movie.

 

[Daniel T]

In the movie "Super Troopers" were from Mass.

Um, I think you mean Vermont.

 

[MinMAN]

Quote:
In the movie "Super Troopers" were from Mass.

Um, I think you mean Vermont.

I stand corrected. Vermont is correct. Sorry, bad joke.

My bad.

 

[coylh]

This irks me:

Although machete-related crimes are occurring from Florida to Washington state and Maine to California ...

I think this should be rewritten as:

Although machete-related crimes are occurring from Florida state to Washington state and Maine state to California state ...

 

[mrmeval]

Actually you use the Onion to ridicule the fruits and nuts.

 

[progunner1957]

Another law brought to you by the Dept. of Redundancy Dept.

This machete law thing would be comical if it weren't so pathetic. Hacking on someone with a machete is already unlawful; it's called attempted murder, or murder, depneding upon the outcome - both of which are felonies.

Another example of law stacked upon law stacked upon law stacked upon law; needless laws created by needless politicians trying to look busy to justify their exsistence.

 

[LAK]

The machete is a very effective weapon - good to have around the house. On the otherhand, if faced with being on the receiving end you'd best have a good long gun in your hands - or plan on making headshots from the getgo.

Bartholomew Roberts

Does anyone else notice a pattern in new criminal laws?

Yes; very much after that which became the norm in the UK starting around the 1970s.

Reminds me directly of "hate crime" legislation as well.
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[Michigander]

Machete, folding shovel, flashlight, gallon of water and jug of kitty litter? Prepared driver.

Um, yeah . . .
Someone prepared to off someone and bury their body out in the boonies.

I think this should be rewritten as:

Although machete-related crimes are occurring from Florida state to Washington state and Maine state to California state ...

Washington STATE was phrased as such in order to distinguish it from Washington D.C. I do not know of any major cities named, "Florida" or "Maine" or "California" with which someone may confuse with the states of the same names.

As for attacking someone with a machete for no lawful reason, it is certainly illegal already, as pointed out. All this law would do is make more potential criminals out of normally law-abiding citizens.

The prison industry requires growth just like most industries.

 

[shermacman]

Reasonable people will agree with the need for commonsense legislation to effect machete control.

For example, everyone agrees that no machete should have bayonet lugs.

 

[Firethorn]

Um, yeah . . .
Someone prepared to off someone and bury their body out in the boonies.

My thoughts as well, Michigander.

You can get thirsty digging a proper grave. Shallow graves just don't cut it.

In addition, I'd have road flares, first aid kit, a box of meal bars(or similar), and a blanket.

Then again, that can still be construed as a list of items for burying a body out somewhere remote.

 

[bcolorado]

What's next? A mandatory jail term for possessing a pointed shovel?

Sir, slowly step back fom the pointed shovel......

 

[Carl N. Brown]

Bartholomew Roberts Quote:
Does anyone else notice a pattern in new criminal laws?

Uh, people are felonized more for what they own and not for what they do?

Quote: Machete, folding shovel, flashlight, gallon of water and jug of kitty litter? Prepared driver.

Um, yeah . . . Someone prepared to off someone and bury their body out in the boonies

Getting to my spare tire (in the trunk) recently, I had to remove:
duct tape, rope, entrenching shovel, drop cloth, hatchet AND machete.
Yes officer, I have an innocent explanation for all that stuff.
I am fifty eight and bald and need all the help getting dates I can use.

 

[mp510]

For purposes of this section, “machete” means “a heavy knife at least 18 inches in length and having a blade at least 1.5 inches wide at its broadest measurement.

The term heavy seems rather vague, becasue it is a term that (unless defined) is a subjective term. Some people find pocket change heavy, but some may find a 100 pound weight bar to be light. That seems a little too vague for my taste.

The IANSA lady, Rebecca Peters, was saying that machete attacks were preferable to gun attacks, but it now appears that here followers may not actually listen to her whole gospel now do they?

This type of law is definetely a sad sight, but it would not be a first attempt by some government to ban or heavily regfulate a tool. One of the gun magfazine wrote that in Texas, they have a ban on wire cutters.


With the standard that are provided, I see a new business opertunity for the cutlery industry. They could start making MA legal vegetation removers, that could exceed the 18" point, provided that they have blades 1.49 or less at the widest point.

Some machetes already don't meet the 18" req

 

[AJ Dual]

I 'recon I'd jes use that there lawnmower blade.

Uh huh....

 

[kjeff50cal]

Congress (opposite of progress ) should enact the "Law Control Act of 2006"... It states no city, state or federal legislative body, who wants federal funds, shall pass no piece of legistlation until they read the laws already on the books that apply to the offense and that the approprate LE agency is enforcing that law.

Never happen, they would be out of work.

kjeff50cal