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At Least He Didn't Use a Firearm....

Discussion in 'Legal' started by Jeff White, Aug 4, 2005.

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  1. Jeff White

    Jeff White Moderator Staff Member

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    Well, castle doctrine or not, this is just plain wrong....Wonder if this would fly in Florida after October 1st? I guess it flies in Missouri now.....
    http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/ne...7278714D22CA527D862570530010D5AD?OpenDocument
    Unless there is a lot more to this story, I can't believe they aren't going to charge Halilovic.

    Jeff
     
  2. Janitor

    Janitor Senior Member

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    Wow. If that story is to be believed as it is, this would _never_ fly in MN. To chase after a guy who has already broken off and fled, catch him, and stab him 20 times (per the construction workers estimate)?

    Does anyone besides me believe the perp was no longer a threat well before that 20th stab wound?

    You're right. At least the guy in the story didn't use a gun.
     
  3. El Tejon

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    Had a case like this a few years ago. Turned out the "burglar" was a just then ex-boyfriend who decided to go over and break off the relationship face to face, the older one took offense. :D
     
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    Never bring a knife to a shovel fight.
     
  5. GunGoBoom

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    That is pretty weird because that story, as relayed is clearly an unjustifiable homocide. Murder should be charged. Extreme provocation could be then entered as a defense, which if bought by the jury, would reduce the conviction to manslaughter. I could see that maybe the only reason they would charge homocide is if they simply cannot prove one element of their case, that is causation - i.e. can't prove that it was the stab wounds, not the car wreck, which caused the death.
     
  6. Janitor

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    I thought that "homocide" was a family of offences (like manslaughter, premeditated murder, etc), and not a specific charge by itself.
     
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    Right, it's a family of offenses, including murder of varying degrees, and manslaughter. What I mean is, SOME kind of homocide occurred, sounds like. The appropriate charge is MURDER (depending on the state, either 1st or 2nd degree).
     
  8. Janitor

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    Ok, ok. it's "offenses", not "offences".

    Sure ... wave my illiteracy in my face. ;)
     
  9. Flyboy

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    Actually, since the topic was raised, "offence" and "offense" are both correct. The former is chiefly British, though.

    However, the Pink Pistols probably have something to say about your use of the word "homocide." :neener:
     
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  11. Mongo the Mutterer

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    Scuze me -- homicide is when any person is killed, regardless of cause..

    Also the area where the homeowner lives is predominately Yugoslavian (Bosnian, Serb, or Croat I don't know which, obviously they don't reside together). Anyway, a buddy and I were discussing this at lunch, and he made the point that maybe the po po doesn't want to upset the community by charging this dude.
     
  12. Standing Wolf

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    I'll bet he won't try burglary for fun and profit again very soon.

    Well, that's one approach to law, I suppose.
     
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    Campers, it's St. Louis, near Morganford... Slam dunk. He's outta there.
     
  14. Vitamin G

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    Thats madness...


    My arm would probably get tired after 12 or 13... :what:
     
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