Attn: Garand owners

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by glocksman, Jan 12, 2005.

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  1. glocksman

    glocksman Member

    Apr 6, 2003
    Evansville, IN
    Help this fellow find the Garand hid Dad carried in the Army.

    Interestingly enough, I just read that the IHC Garands were made right here in Evansville.
    Small world, eh? :)
  2. foghornl

    foghornl Member

    Dec 27, 2002
    International Harvester made other stuff, too. The Garands were made in the Refrigeration/Machine Works plant in Evansville.

    We had an IH chest freezer, 'fridge, and 3 window-type AC units when I was growing up. Oldest brother finally retired the freezer a couple of years back, after the compressor conked out. Nobody could fix it, he was told by several service companies that he was lieing..."IH NEVER made any fridges/freezers, etc...." None of them ever took him up on his offer to come out and have a look, though.

    p.s. Take a look at the kitchen set on some of the "Friends" episodes. There stands an IH fridge, just like the one we had when I was growing up.

    p.p.s. Can't help you on locating your Garand. Mine is a '55 Vintage IH, but not even close to your S/N
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  3. George S.

    George S. Member

    Jan 11, 2004
    Western WA
    That would be a great find, but so many Garands went to other countries either as outright giveaways or loans (and only the loaner M1's can ever be returned to the US) that the chances would be really slim in finding that particular rifle.
  4. Khornet

    Khornet Member

    Dec 30, 2002
    Just about every Garand

    has been through arsenal overhaul, where all rifles were stripped, and bins of parts collected, then rifles were assembled with random parts. Therefore Dad's M1 almost certainly doesn't exist anymore, although its parts are probably out there--in several different rifles.
  5. BluesBear

    BluesBear member

    Jul 25, 2003
    The Great Pacific NorthWet
    Why is everyone so pessimistic?

    Maybe finding that particular Garand is a pipe dream.
    Granted the odds of finding it are slim but still better than winning the lottery.

    Stranger things have happened against stiffer odds.

    Who cares if all of the parts match. Just finding the receiver would be good enough for me. There are still thousands of Garands floating around in country.
    Maybe someone looking for that certain one will find the next number in line?

    I for one am going to print out the serial number and slip it inside my wallet. And I'll check it against every Garand I stumble across.

    Who knows, maybe I will be responsible for someone's dream coming true.
    And if not, who gives a hoot?
    It'll give me a good reason to fondle every Garand I see. :D

    "A man without any dream at all has no reason to live."
  6. charlesb_la

    charlesb_la Member

    Dec 29, 2002
    It could happen.


    Mr. Murphy's M1
    CMP Reunites Korean War Veteran with Wartime Rifle

    Sitting on a hill overlooking the Imjin River in Korea in 1951, Army Private James Murphy of the 1st Cavalry, 8th Regiment, 2nd Battalion worked to flake off the mud encrusted on his M1 Garand rifle. After disassembling it for cleaning, he took the pencil he had used earlier to write a letter home and scrawled his initials on the end of the stock before reinstalling the butt plate. "I never gave it another thought," he said fifty-two years later, then pausing, added, "until a few weeks ago."

    James Murphy served in the U. S. Army during the Korean War. He earned the Combat Infantryman Badge and was awarded the Bronze Star for valor in combat. He had qualified expert with the M1 and several other weapons. Much of his time in Korea was spent driving a tank hauler and retriever, sometimes very close to the fighting. He worked on the tanks and also the trucks he drove. But he was also assigned to make many combat patrols. He was, after all, an infantryman. So, it is easy to see how something as small as scribbling his initials under the butt plate of a rifle could slip his mind.

    However, in late 2002, the Service Grade M1 Garand manufactured at Springfield Armory that he ordered from the CMP was delivered to his doorstep in Fennimore, Wisconsin. Mr. Murphy opened the box with excitement, "I hadn't held an M1 in years and when a friend of mine told me about the CMP, I ordered a Garand as soon as I could," he stated. After the cardboard and packing foam were pulled away, a well-worn M1 found its way into his hands. Mr. Murphy held it and began to think of all the years that had passed since he had been in Korea and carried an M1 Garand rifle every day.

    Since he bought the rifle for target shooting, Mr. Murphy decided to follow the procedure recommended by the CMP. He stripped the rifle down for inspection and cleaning before he ventured to the range with his new prize. The CMP supplies detailed instructions with each rifle it sells and recommends a thorough inspection and cleaning before firing. "There are some things I just never forget," he said sitting over his rifle at his kitchen table, "and I remembered exactly how to strip and clean a Garand."

    "During the takedown of the rifle, I took all the metal off of the stock to make sure no surface rust had found its way into any parts of the rifle. When I removed the buttplate, I could barely believe my eyes." Mr.Murphy stood and carried the rifle to a window to put better light on the stock. "My eyes aren't the best in the world these days, so I needed to look again," he said. Standing by that window in his house in Wisconsin, Mr. Murphy was taken back in time to Korea. There under the butt plate were the initials he had scrawled while sitting on that hill in Korea over fifty years earlier. Mr. Murphy immediately contacted the CMP about this coincidence, a coincidence whose odds are much greater than winning the lottery…an occurrence that may not happen in many lifetimes.

    To put the odds of this happening into perspective, over six million M1 Garands were produced; nearly all ended up in the hands of soldiers in combat during World War II, Korea and even as late as the Viet Nam War. The odds of receiving the very same rifle one was issued during the Korean War are astounding - the odds of winning the lottery are indeed better. The CMP sells rifles on an as ordered basis, meaning no picking and choosing is allowed, the customer simply gets the next rifle that comes off of the rack. "It seems as if this rifle and I were not meant to be apart," he said with a smile, "and some day I will leave it to my grandson so it will always be in our family."

    That day on the hill overlooking the Imjin River in 1951, Jack Murphy did more than write a letter home to his wife, he wrote his initials on the butt stock of his rifle to send a letter to himself that he was destined to receive over 50 years later. By now, both Mr. Murphy and his rifle have spent some time together on the shooting range, relaxing and enjoying the freedoms they helped to secure.
  7. crashresidue

    crashresidue Member

    Dec 27, 2004
    Maui HI
    And - may God bless!

    Gentle winds,
  8. Byron Quick

    Byron Quick Moderator In Memoriam

    Dec 21, 2002
    Waynesboro, Georgia
    There's one of the first US fighter jets in front of the Waynesboro American Legion. There's a retired air force officer out in the country. Local born and raised. He's got the logbook for that aircraft. He was the first to fly it after the Air Force took possession.
  9. mfree

    mfree Member

    May 19, 2004
    Knoxville, TN
    Most big corporations branched out long ago... There was Ford/Philco/Ford Aerospace, which if it had survived could have meant you could me driving a Ford car, listening to a Ford satellite radio coming from a Ford satellite (which I'm certain drives y'all Chevy guys nuts :) ), and then I had a mid-70's General Motors Hotpoint refrigerator, RUNNING, rusting in my garage till I gave it away to someone who is AFAIK still using it. Don't forget Chrysler built the Saturn V rockets for NASA :)
  10. Mac Attack

    Mac Attack Member

    May 29, 2003
    That is just an amazing story. Thanks for posting it.
  11. bytor94

    bytor94 Member

    Jun 11, 2003
    I too will look at every M1 I chance across. Good luck and hope that somehow and against the odds, you find the rifle.
  12. Sistema1927

    Sistema1927 Member

    May 21, 2004
    "Land of (dis)Enchantment"
    I hate to be a pessimist, but wouldn't it make more sense that the guy took a pencil to the butt of his CMP Garand and then looked for a little publicity?
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