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(Australia) OK, if you're this dumb, you deserve being arrested...

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by Drizzt, May 8, 2005.

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  1. Drizzt

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    Illegal guns in photo shoot
    By Steve Butcher
    May 9, 2005

    When the Victoria Police special operations group raided the Hastings clubhouse of the Outlaws Motorcycle Club, they found an arsenal of illegal weapons, including a sawn-off shotgun, two .45-calibre automatic handguns and multiple rounds of unsecured ammunition.

    Present in the clubhouse in the 5.30am raid were then club president Brendan Wayne Petersen and his girlfriend.

    What ensured that Petersen and other club members had seriously shot themselves in the foot was a series of incriminating photographs of them brandishing weapons, including a heavily armed group pictured for the Outlaws Christmas card mail-out.

    One showed Petersen and colleague Shane Jolly pointing automatic handguns at each other's heads.

    When Petersen appeared in court on Friday to face assault and firearms charges, his barrister James Montgomery argued that the digital photographs showed boys being silly in the clubhouse.

    Magistrate Duncan Reynolds, who heard how Peterson injured four men in unprovoked attacks between August 2002, and September 2003, jailed him for 18 months.

    Mr Reynolds, who ordered Petersen to serve a minimum of six months, described the assaults as cowardly and Petersen's attitude to firearms laws as cavalier.

    Petersen, of Kareela Drive, Tootgarook, was released pending an appeal.

    Jack Vandersteen, prosecuting, said Petersen assaulted a man in a Baxter tavern and others punched and kicked him, while in another attack in Tyabb he assaulted a pedestrian who gestured at a car he was travelling in.

    On August 1, 2003, Petersen and others assaulted a naval petty officer in Somerville and later he and fellow Outlaws surrounded a man in the Rosebud Hotel and punched and kicked him to the ground.

    Mr Vandersteen said all of the firearms, including the two loaded .45-calibre handguns that were found under Petersen's bed, were unregistered.

    Mr Montgomery said Petersen, who pleaded guilty to four charges of intentionally causing injury and four firearms offences, had never been seen with the weapons outside the clubhouse.

    http://www.theage.com.au/news/Natio...t/2005/05/08/1115491042382.html?oneclick=true

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  2. TimRB

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    "Mr Vandersteen said all of the firearms, including the two loaded .45-calibre handguns that were found under Petersen's bed, were unregistered."

    Thugs with unregistered guns. Imagine that. Of course, I don't think *anyone* should have to register a gun.

    Tim
     
  3. Cosmoline

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    An outlaw gang sending CHRISTMAS CARDS?! What a truly bizarre country.
     
  4. Justice

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    If only a clap of thunder had gone off while those 2 were posing for that picture, the world would be a better place.
     
  5. Blackburn

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    Seconded!
     
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    Outlaw motorcycle gangs send christmas cards :what:
     
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    I'm quite sure that Sonny Barger would have something to say if a Hell's Angels chapter sent out xmas cards
     
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    Those guys are giving people that wear leather and have tattoos a bad name! :eek:

    Further proof: If you outlaw guns, only outlaws will have guns.
     
  9. 45 Carry

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    What kind of automatic handguns are they holding?
     
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    Not exactly indicative of the average firearms enthusiast here !
     
  11. Justin

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    The entire thing is a fabrication.

    Know why?

    Because handguns are illegal in Australia.
     
  12. Deadman

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    As an Australian, all I can say is that thankfully we don't have an Australian version of Jerry Springer here. We do unfortunately have plenty of coverage of Jerry Springer on Aus. T.V.
    If we did have an Australian Jerry Springer, the two 'bikies' pictured would be prime candidates for such a television program.

    As an aside, its effectively a case of preaching to the choir, but notice that an arsenal now consists of two handguns, one shotgun and 'multiple' rounds.
     
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    "described ... Petersen's attitude to firearms laws as cavalier."

    Goodness me, surely that deserves hard time in the penitentiary! :banghead:
     
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    I think he needs to get those macho tan lines registered !! :evil:

    OK, its a shirt, but it still looks funny!
     
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    Hey, people are just that friendly down in Oz. You know for all the strict gun control in Australia, that didn't keep the cops in Hobart from taking some of the Marines from the John C. Stennis (CVN-74) out to jeep-hunt the wildlife.

    Shame about that Gun Control, too. WA and Tasmania would be awesome places to live.
     
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    They have their fingers on th triggers, and why 'oh why could they not have just both had finger twitches.....
     
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    Australia's gun laws

    Boys all I can say is you have taken aim - squeeze not jerk the trigger and ease some of our social problems
     
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    ..and by the way, handguns aren't illegal here.
     
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    I guess outlaws just aren't all they used to be in these modern times we're having these days.
     
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    Why do we always hear that they are?

    What is legal down in Oz?
     
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    Originally posted by deadman


    Actually that arsenal was two handguns, a shotgun, and "multiple rounds of unsecured ammunition."



    Ummmm....... Just how secure does your ammo have to be, anyway?
     
  22. Deadman

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    "Ummmm....... Just how secure does your ammo have to be, anyway?"

    Generally locked in a safe/container of some kind and seperated from firearms.
     
  23. Justin

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    Ok, I think you've got me there, but aren't pistols with a bore above .40 heavily restricted if not completely outlawed?
     
  24. Cosmoline

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    Under Australia's uniform gun laws:
    Anyone who applies for a gun licence in any state must prove a genuine reason (self-defence doesn't qualify),

    Anyone wanting to buy a gun must prove genuine reason for that particular gun,

    All sales must go through dealers

    All gun sales, gifts and inheritances must be registered with police

    No self-loading longarms can be bought for target shooting or recreational hunting.

    So in that same sense, machine guns aren't illegal in the US. They aren't illegal IF you get local LEO approval and a BATF stamp for a Class III firearm. Otherwise THEY ARE ALL ILLEGAL! Handguns are all illegal in Australia, with the ONLY exceptions being for LEO's and other ruling class members, and anyone who can convinced the powers that be that they really need a firearm. And self defense is not sufficient justification. What a great government you have down there. Too bad the biker gangs don't kill the politicians.
     
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    Reminds me of the delinquent youths on The Simpsons

    "Videotaping this crime-spree was the best idea ever!"
     
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