Your argument seems to be that a lack of data doesn’t necessarily support a lack of criminal activity. And that is certainly possible. A lack of data might as easily support A lack of criminal activity.I do not what know that a "lack of aggressive instances at rural rest stops" might mean, but a lack of data cannot support a conclusion that stopping at rural risk stops would not be risky.
Further, no realistic evaluation of how or whether a person stopping at one might represent an inviting target for an attacker would support such a conclusion.
To me, it supports the opposite very persuasively.
"Opinion"? Well, there are ways in which a meaningful scientific experiment could be designed to evaluate the issue, but that shouldn't be necessary for anyone who can think.
Actual data can have their uses, but people often have to employ other means of analysis .
https://www.thehighroad.org/index.p...comings-of-statistics-and-actual-data.869921/
What????A lack of data might as easily support A lack of criminal activity.
OK, I'll rephrase it the way may Dad said it:" A little foresight goes a long way in avoiding a fight you don't want."The Sun Tzu sayings are applicable in war, but their application in lawful personal defense is quite limited.
Are there any fights that a reasonable law abiding person would want?OK, I'll rephrase it the way may Dad said it:" A little foresight goes a long way in avoiding a fight you don't want."
Well, your claiming the opposite from the same lack of data.What????
It cannot support a conclusion that the risk of such activity is low.
Not at all.Well, your claiming the opposite from the same lack of data
While I am suggesting that the risk is real, the lack of data has nothing to do with my opinion.
Where do you draw he line? Stores at closing time? ATMs at midnight? Bars?I won’t change certain things that I otherwise want or should be able to do.
The kinds of risks about which one should be concerned at a rest stop are usually less than obvious, if predation is intended, and are rarely something that can be addressed by "calling the cops".If I see an issue, possible threat or legality that needs to be addressed at a rest stop, or Anywhere similar. I call the cops.
My word!Texas is an open carry state. I will dual or even triple open carry, and make it more then obvious without doing anything illegal.
I am & will also not make any plans to visit v... certain cities in the USA right now that are suffering from Antifa and BLM protesting and riots.
If Antifa or the BLM are protesting or rioting, I will avoid those areas of trouble unless.... I am taking part in a counter-protest, but I am still legally prepared in whatever legal way I can be
What do you tell them, and what to they do for you?I have no problem calling in the police if needed.
Recently with people getting violent about people not wearing masks in various stores, I had a gentleman start to approach me, it was obvious, I knew it was about me not wearing a mask. I was open carrying, when he got close, I could tell he finally noticed I was carrying, and made an abrupt about face only 6’ in front of me and then turned right down the isle. It was more then obvious to myself, my significant other, and the store associate who was with me. All three of us snickered and the store associate made a funny comment.
In some situations, if legally allowed. Texas is an open carry state. I will dual or even triple open carry, and make it more then obvious without doing anything illegal.
Where do you draw he line? Stores at closing time? ATMs at midnight? Bars?
The kinds of risks about which one should be concerned at a rest stop are usually less than obvious, if predation is intended, and are rarely something that can be addressed by "calling the cops".
And there is the timing element. If one can wait for the police to dispatch someone and come to a rest top, one probably had a better mitigation strategy in the first place.
My word!
This:
Is contradictory with this:
Do you really think that being "legally prepared" would prove helpful?
What do you tell them, and what to they do for you?
Do you really expect a timely response these days?
Do you really expect a timely response these days?
You do realize that there is a certain segment of the population who will look at your “display of force” as a challenge, don’t you? While a rational person might be intimidated and stay away, there are plenty of irrational people in the world who will look at your “display of force” as a challenge to take up.
And as been discussed, it might well have turned out very badly for you.
Just to clarify the emphasis of that particular poster's story was rest areas. There are other places that are trouble spots.
As for specifically rest stops though there are things that I look for. Like HSO said if there several other people there. If there are that's one thing if not I'd seriously consider moving on.
I stopped in a rest area in Idaho I think and had some lot lizard try to pick me up. I stopped in another one, because I was falling asleep at the wheel and I woke up and some guy was trying to get in my car. I don't even remember where that happened. That may skew my perception but generally speaking I don't stop at them unless there's not another option.
Simply avoiding places that generally have a higher percentage of trouble can certainly help, but it can also cause you to miss out on a lot.
I agree with this in general. There’s a lot of people on this board that won’t visit entire states!! But personally I’ve never found a rest stop that is cleaner than 95% of gas stations. Its fair to say stay out of rest areas.
ST&T is not limited to firearms. Read the forum description.Since this is a firearm forum....
That's important, but ii is not the substance of ST&T.Firearms are dangerous when in the wrong hands. We don't practice avoiding firearms. We practice proper gun safety. By practicing proper gun safety we avoid many possible horrible outcomes.