Backwood options?
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lobo9er
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very shootable out of the 3inch sp101 I shoot.
Armored farmer
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I bought an SP101 for the reasons you are wanting one. Four wheeling, Jeeping, fishing, camping, ccw. Something small for when shooting isn't on the agenda, but still want a defensive gun. I have been well pleased with my SP101 in that role. It is small enough to be inconspicuous, but you will know it's there, 'cause its heavy. It will fit easily into the pocket of my cargo pants or shorts, but you'll look a little odd with one side of your britches hanging down. I have carried mine in my cargo pocket, but usually it goes in an iwb holster.
Nico Testosteros
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I'm with everyone else who says SP101. I have a 3". Hogue mono grips help with full power loads.
I agree,
My SP101 is 25 oz which is not too heavy at all to pocket carry. In fact, I pocket carried it inside the house this morning while I was doing my errands. In addition, I didn't even have on a belt and no, I didn't look like a gang banger with my pants hanging off my rear.
Great gun and the extra weight tames these .357 full power loads. The 13 oz scandium models are gruesome to shoot from what I have heard and I have no plans to test that statement anytime soon.
Great gun.
I have never shot hogs, so cannot address that part, but one or more SP101 revolvers are on my person just about every time I leave the house, and one is in my pocket now. I agree that an SP101 is not heavy; I want a bit of heft in a carry gun. I also agree with the comment that the 3" version (actually 3-1/16") is a natural pointer; at least in my hands, the balance point being more toward the muzzle increases the practical accuracy of the 3" version, and if using the sights, the extra bit of sight radius certainly does not hurt anything. (I have both the 2.25" and 3.02" lengths.)
Really, however, the 2.25" SP101 can be shot accurately. Practice is important,of course.
I have fired Federal Castcore 180-grain ammo through an SP101. Recoil was not punishing. Be sure to hold hgh on he grip, which minimizes muzzle flip, and directs recoil into the entire hand and arm, rather than concentrating the recoil into the web of the hand.
If worn on a belt, there is no practical difference in the concealability and portability of the 2.25" and 3.06" versions. In a pocket, well, it depends upon the size of the pockets, and most ready-made pocket holsters are probably sized for the shorter weapons. (I once saw a listing for a pre-owed Kramer pocket holster for the 3.06" SP101, but those are made to order.)
Really, however, the 2.25" SP101 can be shot accurately. Practice is important,of course.
I have fired Federal Castcore 180-grain ammo through an SP101. Recoil was not punishing. Be sure to hold hgh on he grip, which minimizes muzzle flip, and directs recoil into the entire hand and arm, rather than concentrating the recoil into the web of the hand.
If worn on a belt, there is no practical difference in the concealability and portability of the 2.25" and 3.06" versions. In a pocket, well, it depends upon the size of the pockets, and most ready-made pocket holsters are probably sized for the shorter weapons. (I once saw a listing for a pre-owed Kramer pocket holster for the 3.06" SP101, but those are made to order.)
Vern Humphrey
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My only quarrel with the .357 is muzzle blast. I've had an encounter with an RPG-7 and another with a TM 3 anti-tank mine, plus boo coo other hearing experiences, to the point where my favorite sentence is "Huh? Say again?"
I will no longer fire a .357 even once without hearing protection, and that makes it a non-starter for me as a woods gun.
The .45 Colt, on the other hand, is not nearly as punishing to the ears.
I will no longer fire a .357 even once without hearing protection, and that makes it a non-starter for me as a woods gun.
The .45 Colt, on the other hand, is not nearly as punishing to the ears.
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I did that once, too, in 1979. First and last time I fired a .357 without ear protection.
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The longer barrels do provide a shooter with a better sight plane. If you are buying a gun for hog hunting I would recommend a bigger gun. If you are using a hog hunt as an excuse to buy a great carry gun you are making a good decision. People kill hogs with knives. The SP101 will kill a hog.
lobo9er
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sp101 has just enough heft to let you know its there.
I sure do like my S&W Model 65 - 3" barrel, round butt, 6 shots.
If that's too big I have a 2 1/8" S&W 649 in 357 Mag. It's all steel and is not the lightest thing out there, but it still has become my daily carry gun. I regularly drop 8" steel plates with it at 25 yards, usually single action (the shrouded hammer is easy to cock when you want to.) BUT - I have fired exactly one (1) round of 357 out of it and will not do that again. Even with a Pachmayr Decelerator grip (their cushiest, AFAIK) it was painful. I can shoot hundreds of regular 38s without pain, even using the standard service grips with a BK grip adapter. +Ps are OK in limited numbers, or in greater numbers with something like a Pachmayr Compac qrip that cushions the backstrap. But something this small with full magnum loads is just too much for MY hands and wrist. YMMV, of course.
If that's too big I have a 2 1/8" S&W 649 in 357 Mag. It's all steel and is not the lightest thing out there, but it still has become my daily carry gun. I regularly drop 8" steel plates with it at 25 yards, usually single action (the shrouded hammer is easy to cock when you want to.) BUT - I have fired exactly one (1) round of 357 out of it and will not do that again. Even with a Pachmayr Decelerator grip (their cushiest, AFAIK) it was painful. I can shoot hundreds of regular 38s without pain, even using the standard service grips with a BK grip adapter. +Ps are OK in limited numbers, or in greater numbers with something like a Pachmayr Compac qrip that cushions the backstrap. But something this small with full magnum loads is just too much for MY hands and wrist. YMMV, of course.
Another option to think about is the Taurus tracker in .41 mag. Won't fit in your pocket but not bad for what it is.
http://www.taurususa.com/product-details.cfm?id=197&category=Revolver&toggle=tr&breadcrumbseries=TS2
http://www.taurususa.com/product-details.cfm?id=197&category=Revolver&toggle=tr&breadcrumbseries=TS2
This should settle the barrel length / speed argument;
http://ballisticsbytheinch.com/calibers.html
I love my .357's, but for charging pigs I'd want something a bit more powerful. The gristle shield on the front of a hog does a great job of stopping pistol rounds (or at least stopping them long enough). I'd also want at least a 4" barrel to get multiple shots off easier under stress. That's just me though . . . I like my 629 in a chest rig in the backwoods.
http://ballisticsbytheinch.com/calibers.html
I love my .357's, but for charging pigs I'd want something a bit more powerful. The gristle shield on the front of a hog does a great job of stopping pistol rounds (or at least stopping them long enough). I'd also want at least a 4" barrel to get multiple shots off easier under stress. That's just me though . . . I like my 629 in a chest rig in the backwoods.
lobo9er
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I just shot some gold dots 357 158 gr and gold dot 38 plus p 125 gr. The 38's were spot on at 15 yards, I was shooting clay pigeons with ease. not a trick shot I know. The 357s were a lot of fun and just as accurate but with a more bang,
It sounds like to me you want a "just in case"/SD Carry .357 snub nose revolver. The Ruger SP101 is a very credible choice. Ruger also makes the Ruger KLCR .357mag. I own one, and use for SD carry daily. Lightweight, manageable and controllable with "double taps" with Hogue Tamer Grips, very accurate even at longer distances, and deadly with CorBon DPX 125gr. .357mag. loads, or the CorBon Hunter loads shown above. Yesterday, shot 2-3 in.groups, rapid fire, at 5-7 yds. (do have XS Big Dot) multiple times with only a couple "flyers". Just something else to look at if time permits. Take care and be safe.
lobo9er
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nice looking for sure
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