Bad friends what do I say?!

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I have a group of friends that are into shooting sports and hunting like I am, but with them safty goes right out the window. After having a slug gun blow apart a tree 10 feet away from me, I have decided to stop doing any shooting with them whatsoever.
The question I give you guys is, what is the best way to tell a group of unsafe hunters that they are unsafe? I have already yelled at one of them when I caught him with his hammer cocked and his finger on the trigger as he was walking behind me, and it didn't go good.
Here's the tricky part though, I'm 17 and my father is going back with them, how do I get it through his head that it's a bad idea?
 
You know the answer. Spill the beans, be a man. We all have your back, but that doesn't change what you have to do.
 
Yeah, that can be a problem, but you have to speak up. They'll respect you for it, or don't go shooting with them again. My biggest problem is taking my non gun owning friends to the range where they get to have the fun of shooting without the pain of cleaning the guns at the end of the day. Getting pretty old at this point.
 
Tell them when they aren't armed, if they are unsafe they might be the kind to point at things with their gun, and you don't want that to be you. Just tell them, be blunt about it. Tell your dad what happened with the tree or whatever, he should listen.
 
BTDT

I dont like shooting with guys because they dont listen and already know everything. I cant go out shooting with a bunch of ladies because I'm married. So, for the most part, I shoot alone.
 
Tell your da exactly what you've said here and that you won't go with him if those guys are there.
"...I'm 17..." These plugs your da's buddies or your's? Sadly, your da's buddies won't listen to a 17 year old guy. No matter how much common sense you have. Adamantly, refuse to shoot with 'em. Your da will likely catch on.
 
I'd rather hurt someone's feelings than be a victim of their stupidity. If they won't listen to logic, you're better off ;)
 
dont shoot/hunt with them if they are unsafe period.

"when I caught him with his hammer cocked and his finger on the trigger as he was walking behind me, and it didn't go good."

Ass, id like you to meet mister foot.
 
Some people will never learn firearm safety. I hunt with a guy like that. He is in his 50's and I am only slightly behind. I watch him because I don't trust his gun safety. If someone had their hammer cocked and finger on the trigger, I agree with theken206...ass, meet foot. I would not hunt with them after that. A hunt is not worth your life or an injury.
 
I agree don't hunt with them.
Here is what happened to me one day.
Was the last few days of slug season here in Ohio.
I was in my tree stand on some private property that we have permission to hunt. About noon I see this kid waking a fence line right towards me.
He has no idea I am there in the tree. I whistle an ask what he is doing. The whole time I keep my gun pointed in the air an not at him.
HE SWEPT me with his gun an kept it pointed in my general direction.
I told him to point it at the ground an he said no biggie I got the safty on.
I told him point it at the ground NOW.
Him an his dad were poaching. He lied an said they were looking for a deer they shot. But what was going on is he would walk then sit while his dad would walk.

:banghead: :banghead: :fire: I was mad to say the least. If I had had a cell phone at the time I would have called the game warden. IT is people like that that give honest hunters a bad rap an cause accidents.
 
You need to sit down and have "the talk" with your dad....he should listen and care enough to make changes.

Obviously dont go shooting with them again. When they ask you to go out with them, tell them "no" and tell them why you are saying it.

Being dead is a bit too late to make a change or say something.
 
The question I give you guys is, what is the best way to tell a group of unsafe hunters that they are unsafe? I have already yelled at one of them when I caught him with his hammer cocked and his finger on the trigger as he was walking behind me, and it didn't go good.
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I'll bet it went better than getting shot.

If you feel unsafe with them, say so.

As for your father, if he's old enough to be your father, he's old enough to make his own decisions, including bad ones. After you tell him of your concerns, the responsibility is his.

The only times I've gone hunting in the last thirty years (not counting North Koreans) were with one trustworthy person on private land.
 
Just say NO! Tell them they scare the h out of you and may be they will try to be a little smarter with their unsafe habits. They should respect you for that, I would.
 
if you want to live to see 18, stay away from them until they grow up! either find a new set of freinds to shoot/hunt with, or just find some new freinds! if they are that careless with firearms, they will probably be that careless with many other aspects of their lives. you dont want to be with then when they pull a BIG mistake that lands somebody in jail, or worse.
 
I'd say get your father involved and make sure he understands your concerns. As an adult I'd say it's his responsibility to take it up with their parents or with the kids themselves. If my kid was doing something unsafe I'd want another parent to let me know.
 
A guy I grew up with almost shot me pulling around a shotgun on a bird we had flushed as we were walking out of the woods. I just layed down to get out of the way. This was around 1984 or 85. We had known each other since we were both 3. I never went hunting with him again.
 
There is nothing wrong with giving someone an honest assessment of their performance. They may not like the truth, but also may not realize they are being un-safe.

If you have an legitimate fear of getting hurt by them, don't go hunting with them.

My biggest problem is taking my non gun owning friends to the range where they get to have the fun of shooting without the pain of cleaning the guns at the end of the day. Getting pretty old at this point.
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Have them help you clean the guns afterward. If you haven't told them, you cannot possibly blame them, and they do not know your concerns.
 
Get new friends!! These guys are not your friends, they are just acquaintances. Real friends do not endanger other friends lives by being stupid.
 
By all means let them know your specific concerns ... and quickly, before someone gets hurt. If they refuse to heed the advice or blow it off as unnecessary and unwelcome, blow them off in return ... and quickly. With friends like that, it's not enemies you need but an ER doc at your side.

I used to hunt with a guy who was as free-wheeling with his shotgun as he was his advice on all subjects. After an AD in which he damn near took off his son's head (and that's no joke; the thought of it still makes me squirm, years later), I quickly found other hunting companions. So, by the way, did the guy's son.
 
I'd rather hurt someone's feelings than be a victim of their stupidity.
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10-ring: You put that one in the 10-ring!

I'm 57 y/o and I've never heard that idea expressed so sucinctly...I love it.

And it has a much broader application than just hunting and firearms.

Do I have your permission to use it?
 
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