Ban cars...or cops with cars

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. . . more officers are being killed in traffic accidents . . . There's no single apparent reason for the increase.
I'd say there are two major reasons:

1. First, some cops have watched too many episodes of Starsky & Hutch and Hunter, not to mention the car chase from Bullett. They think they can drive on the actual city streets as well as a Hollywood stuntman in a carefully choreographed movie scene.

2. They're above the law . . . I've seen cop cars (WITHOUT lights or sirens) blithely ignoring speed limits, stop signs, etc. so often I've lost count.
 
Okay. Mount 20 mm guns on the helicopters. That'll take care of the high speed chases. :D
 
My observations

Coming from no particularly involved point of view, here's my take.
A) more cars. Period. I don't know but I'd bet that vehicle accidents and deaths are up across the board regardless of occupation. Of course those that drive for their job (cops, taxi's, truckers, etc.) play those odds more than someone who drives three miles to work and two to church on Sunday.
B) High speed chases are morally criminal. Use a radio and cooperate with surrounding departments. We can all agree that fast response time is good response time, but too often we read an obituary in the paper for an uninvolved person, a police officer or the suspect. Before you say it, I know, don't run. I agree, but don't endanger yourself or others because you're too @#$% macho or bucking for brownie points to call for B/U and assistance. If the S.O.B. runs, you can tail him at a safe distance and observe without running me or my family over to catch him.
C) As for the seeing police cruisers run red lights, I stopped counting the times a Cleveland cop would sit at a light for a few minutes, get frustrated, pop on his lights and blow through the light. Then promptly turn off the lights.
 
+1 (a little late) Coronach

That break down was to avoid the obvious "vehicles are more of a threat"

Not a very good cover up either I just added them up... adds up to more than firearms... next I guess they won't list some types of accidents in the same stats page...

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Gee, I wonder how many non-LEOs are killed by cars? I'm willing to bet its waaaaaaaaaaay more than 35. Guess you better hand in your keys. :rolleyes:
 
...Well Then, That Just About "Does" It...

Cars kill people, not drivers. It's simple. First, we ban all motorized vehicles. Second, we start walking everywhere. Third, we file numerous lawsuits against the Auto Industry for selling an "Inherently Dangerous" product. Just think of how fast gas prices will come down and how much safer we'll all be. Why, 'drive bys' will be a thing of the past. It will be a New Day !!! :cool:
 
I look at hi-speed pursuit the same way I do at use of lethal force; a no-win situation. If you start using non-lethal weapons the toughs will immediately become totally and incredibly aggressive towards police officers (my prediction). It becomes a rite of passage to get tasered or zapped or stunned or whatever. There is no substitute for lethal force. Dont get me wrong, I really think cops shoot too many unarmed people but is there really any other way? As soon as hi-speed pursuit goes away we will have people running away constantly and there will be a call for total road surviellance; I dont know if that would be worse than bystander fatalities. Tough call. The surviellance society is almost here anyway to go along with the police state.
 
I think you are right CARRY'IN. You have to have some way of catching those guys. Find the safest way. Allowing them to run free hoping someone on the other end will spot them doesn't sound real good.
 
Mendelsohn also suggested police departments outfit their vehicles with the kind of seat belts race car drivers use. They latch in front of the driver's chest, not at the lower right hip, allowing more freedom of movement.
DO NOT go to the source of this "advice" for advice.

Having spent a fair amount of time strapped into a race car equipped with a 5-point harness, I can attest from first hand experience that "the kind of seat belts race drivers use" absolutely do not allow "more freedom of movement." In fact, if they allow any freedom of movement, they aren't doing their job.

And there is no way an officer's going to be able to strap him/herself in using a 5-point racing harness without first shucking the Sam Brown belt and all the tactical gear.

Next case ...
 
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