NOPD Demanding Gun Receipts

[Treo]

So, can I assume that we still don't have anything but anecdotal evidence that this is happening?

 

[bigjohnson]

Cassandrasdaddy states: "The movie name was "mr roberts" (sic)" au contraire, contraire, Mr. Daddy. The movie, based on the book by Herman Wouk, was "The Caine Mutiny", in which Fred McMurray played the part of the Executive Officer of the USS Caine, Mr. Keefer.

The film "Mister Roberts", starring Henry Fonda and Jack Lemon was released several years later and was similar to The Caine Mutiny only in the fact that both stories took place in a US Navy ship during World War 2

 

[hnk45acp]

I have a question?

If the Leo tries to take a lawfully owned firearm from a person who has committed no crime, He or she (PC statement) is acting outside of the law then that is clearly theft.

Now if the officer is acting outside of the law then he is not protected by his LEO status, he is armed at the time of commission of the said theft which makes the theft an armed robbery.

A forcible felony offence which is covered in the Concealed Carry Regulations within Florida Law, would you be justifiable in defending oneself from a forcible felony by using deadly force?

Whilst I do not advocate getting into a fire fight with an LEO it certainly need to be brought to the attention of LEO’s that the law may in these circumstances allow an armed citizen to use deadly force against the aggressor.

I am not a lawyer. But raise this for the purpose of discussion and comment.

Someone very smart once said that the side of the road is NOT a courtroom.
Trying to defend yourself against an LEO taking your gun will definitely put a crimp in your ability to own a gun.
If you are not a lawyer or LEO you may not be familiar with exactly why they are doing it (lawful or not) and a shootout on the side of the road will not help your case.

 

[stampsm]

I have a question?

If the Leo tries to take a lawfully owned firearm from a person who has committed no crime, He or she (PC statement) is acting outside of the law then that is clearly theft.

Now if the officer is acting outside of the law then he is not protected by his LEO status, he is armed at the time of commission of the said theft which makes the theft an armed robbery.

A forcible felony offence which is covered in the Concealed Carry Regulations within Florida Law, would you be justifiable in defending oneself from a forcible felony by using deadly force?

Whilst I do not advocate getting into a fire fight with an LEO it certainly need to be brought to the attention of LEO’s that the law may in these circumstances allow an armed citizen to use deadly force against the aggressor.

I am not a lawyer. But raise this for the purpose of discussion and comment.

this may be a case where a literal word for word interpretation of the law shows that you are in the right, but they will still try to find something to go after you.

this can be compared to a similar scenario where if an officer walks into a store and tells the clerk he was a cop and he was taking a tv and they couldn't do anything about it. if the clerk then proceeds to pull a weapon and shoot said cop is he in the right?
you would need hard evidence that the officer broke the laws and knew he was breaking the laws(basically video recordings and audio recordings), a really good lawyer, prior cases to uphold your actions in similar situations, and a willingness to spend 20 years in jail to prove a point.

if someone did this and had it this well documented i would toss in a chunk of money for his legal defense, but i would not want to be the one trying to set precedence.

 

[Blackbeard]

If you had drugs in the car, they'd presume you owned it because it's in your car. Why then do they presume you don't own the gun?

 

[maestro pistolero]

If you had drugs in the car, they'd presume you owned it because it's in your car. Why then do they presume you don't own the gun?

What a great point.

 

[Art Eatman]

This can be re-started when Tom gets more information...