Bank security entrance

Status
Not open for further replies.
E

eyebrows

Member
Joined
Jun 14, 2007
Messages
63
Location
Indy
I carry in my normal bank all the time, no problems.
Yesterday I went to a different bank, so I walk in the door and realize its one of those security entrances. You walk in one door into a foyer, it locks behind you and you walk through a metal detector, then somebody buzzes you inside the next door.
This made me nervous, even though there were no "no gun" signs, because I figured my sig226 was going to trip the metal detector. I couldn't leave because the door was locked so I tried to pass the detector and of course set it off. I chickened out and told the lady on the intercom that I had some nuts and bolts in my pockets from work so she let me back outside and I stashed my gun in the truck and went back inside with no problems.

Anyone ever encountered this type of entrance and tell the intercom person it was your CCW?
 
So they just don't let you in if the metal detector goes off? What if you're in a wheel chair or have a metal plate or are depositing a bucket of coins?

If they let you in when you make some excuse, what good does it do at all? I guess I'm just confused as to how this works.

I would be interested to see what they'd say if you indicated you are legally carrying a concealed weapon.
 
apollosmith said:
This made me nervous, even though there were no "no gun" signs, because I figured my sig226 was going to trip the metal detector.
Click to expand...

If you are not breaking a law then you don't need to be nervous. What's the worst thing that could happen if they discover you are carrying a firearm?
 
OP, i know how you feel - except one day I was feeling particularly brazen and made the happy discovery that the metal detector at my bank is turned off. The funny door system still does, though, so that only one person comes in at a time. Ah well, that bank's in a good neighborhood and we all know criminals don't ever take buses..


If the thing buzzed I think I'd wait expectantly at the door. And if someone asked me, I'd say I had a concealed carry permit and was legally armed. And if they told me to leave it in the car I'd do my best to speak to the highest bank officer in that particular branch (note: this may actually require leaving the gun in the car, but it'd be worth it for one visit.)


One bank lets you in legally armed, the other does not? Arbitrary.. Sounds like one of a few things. Either a) they're getting rid of the metal detectors, b) they're installing metal detectors, c) bank 2 is deemed in a higher-risk location. Or, I guess d) would be they bought the building with the detectors or they were otherwise installed for no reason.
 
It is legal in Michigan, to carry in a bank. We are not the bad guy. I refuse to leave my pistol in the auto while at the bank. Some perp can observe me leave my firearm in the car. Then, he or she knows that they can steal it, or assault me while I am for fact disarmed.

In this situation, I would simply show my MCPL. If they refuse me service, sue their posteriors, and laugh all the way to the bank. Pun fully intended. In fact, I would take the settlement check right back to that bank and see if they learned anything.
 
My former bank installed these and put "No Guns" signs on the doors. I closed my accounts and moved to the bank across the street.

Interestingly enough the manager said that they'd picked up a lot of new business. She also said she had a CHL and would never prohibit a customer from carrying in the bank.
 
Most of the time this is all eyewash. It is supposed to have a deterrent effect. It adds to the complexity and increases the risk to a bank robber. If it’s harder for him to get in and, more importantly, harder for him to get out quickly, he will go elsewhere. Meanwhile, it beeps for pretty much anyone who comes in and the bank employees ignore it.
 
And in Florida, if the bank refused to let you leave as well as barring entry, it would amount to false imprisonment, a criminal act on their part.
 
My former bank installed these and put "No Guns" signs on the doors. I closed my accounts and moved to the bank across the street.

Interestingly enough the manager said that they'd picked up a lot of new business. She also said she had a CHL and would never prohibit a customer from carrying in the bank.
Click to expand...

That's a great story!
 
And in Florida, if the bank refused to let you leave as well as barring entry, it would amount to false imprisonment, a criminal act on their part.
Click to expand...


If I was a bank employee, having just suffered through an armed robbery, the LAST thing I'd want is to keep the robber locked up inside, precipitating a hostage situation...
 
eyebrows said:
You walk in one door into a foyer, it locks behind you and you walk through a metal detector, then somebody buzzes you inside the next door.
Click to expand...

I sounds like they can trap the robber between the two sets of doors. I hope it's all glass because that would be funny to watch.
 
It was not my normal bank, not even the same branch I was there to get some papers notarized. I was nervous because I had no idea what would happen when the detector went off.. loud buzzers and sirens? police show up? nerve gas from the baseboards? I had no idea but really didn't want to freak out the lady I was signing papers with. She didn't know I was carrying.

I'd like to try it again and tell them I'm armed, theres no signs and it is legal to carry in a bank in Indiana. I guess the worst is they won't let me in and tell me to use the drive up window.

It was an all glass(looked thick) foyer, the people in line in the lobby were looking at me so they must have heard a buzzer or something. I don't know if they could hear what I was saying into the intercom.
 
In Oregon it is illegal to carry CCWs into a bank. Kind of a pain I suppose. I mistakenly thought it was this way nationally. The more I hear about Florida and it's gun laws the more I want to move to Florida. If only it wasn't so damn hot and humid there.

If there were no signs posted, and it is legal to carry in a bank, then I think showing your "CCW BADGE" would alleviate the problem.

BTW kidding about the badge.
 
I would NOT show my permit. IF the (detectors) went off I would go to door as if I EXPECTED it to open. IF they did not buzz me thru I would do the (puzzled white guy) routine. You push on door/try to pull it/look thru and mouth "the door is stuck...... Aren't you open?"
When someone comes to door act stupid. "metal? well yes I have plates in my arm/leg/shoulder from car accident" " Not like I can take that off as well as this pile of keys"
IF you act unconcerned I bet 90% of time they will (buzz) you thru.
 
Here in Colorado a "No Guns" sign carries no legal weight, but your CHL forbids you from entering a building by way of a metal detector.

So here in CO, if you set the metal detector off you could lose your CHL.
 
Is that legal? What gives them the right to lock you in? Whats state is this? Sounds like unlawful imprisonment to me.
 
You should speak to the manager about -

1- Failing to post signs
2- Watching your money move to a different bank
 
Is that legal? What gives them the right to lock you in? Whats state is this? Sounds like unlawful imprisonment to me.
Click to expand...

I'm sure they'd only imprison someone who has committed a crime, and would contact the authorities immediately. In most states, their liability would be very limited.

I'd also like to add in NC, concealed firearms are expressly forbidden in "financial institutions", however, open carry is legal unless the institution is posted.
 
Instead of going and trying it again I think I'll just call and ask the manager if they will honer my license and let me carry inside. This was a National City Bank in Indiana, I looked all over the bank afterwards and there are zero signs regarding guns.

I'm just wondering what normal procedure with these type of entrances is. To allow or deny entrance to someone who's armed and has a license? To me it only makes sense they would deny me access until I disarmed, they did go through a lot of trouble with the entrance after all. I would change banks in a flash if my bank installed these.
 
Flak Jakett ~

I just wandered through the Oregon statutes, and I cannot find that on the books. Can you point me to it? Am I looking in the wrong place?
Click to expand...

You know what? I remember reading sections Revised Statutes 166.360 and 166.370 to clarify carrying in school grounds, but I didn't look for banks specifically. The reason why, is that when I was issued my license in Lane county it came with a notice with a list of places that you could not carry your pistol with banks being on that list. Being as it came from the sheriff's office, I figured it was state law.

Now that you mention it, however, when I renewed it later in Lake county it did not come with any notice at all, rather a note that said to review the revised statute. I guess the Lane county sherriff, being elected in the middle of the liberal bastion of Eugene, decided to put his own spin on things. It's hard to believe that an elected county official would put out misinformation about laws. Doing further research Lane, Multnoma, and a few other county sheriff offices all put out these nonesense notices with their CCW licenses, while other counties such as Lake county do not.

But, I know now that piece of paper deserves the round file not my document file. Perhaps I should write a letter to my county sherriff's office that is still issuing these notices and ask them why an official entrusted with upkeeping the laws of Oregon are issuing these notices which directly contradicts state law.
 
Flak Jakett ~

Thanks. Thought maybe I was just looking past it.

*shakes head* It does seem like "they" will do & say anything they think they can get away with, doesn't it!?

Since you're out of that jurisdiction now, a letter to the sherriff there couldn't do you any personal harm, and might do other folks some good. Or if you're feeling very energetic, maybe a phone call to Tom Gresham on Guntalk, or to Dave Workman at Gunweek -- either of them might be happy to do a story on it, and maybe get some action. (Oh, wait -- rereading ... you're still in the jurisdiction? That's a little more stressful, but probably still harmless in a shall issue state.)

*shakes head again* Elected officials. Gotta watch 'em every moment! :D

pax
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Similar threads

F
  • Locked
I walked into a bank robbery in progress...
2 3 4
Replies
78
Views
6K
Jeff White
J
S
  • Locked
Trip to our Federal Credit Union
Replies
19
Views
1K
Optical Serenity
O
J
  • Locked
Metal detectors at bank door
2 3
Replies
54
Views
3K
GoodKat
G
W
  • Locked
Washington Mutual metal detectors
Replies
9
Views
713
Art Eatman
A
M
  • Locked
CCW and those security things at store entrances
2
Replies
34
Views
3K
campergeek
C
Back
Top