because of my neighbors we cannot own a gun.

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mgmorden i own a few cap and ball guns i have built, and a Remington rider pistol. the thinks the NAA cap and ball looks too much like a real gun. however she does not mind my Remington rider pistol though. i would just like something a little bigger than a .17 cap and ball.
 
If you already own several guns and mom doesn't have a problem with it whats the deal? Also, unless you invite your neighbor over to rummage through the house on a regular basis I really don't see how he would even know if you have any firearms. And even if that is the case it's really none of his business.

A cap and ball pistol IS a real gun regardless of looks
 
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thorn i have talked to him in the past, he seems like a decent person if you ask me. i think you are right about talking to him, that seems like a good solid plan. i mean we are not mortal enemies really, i feel kinda neutral about him and i think he probably feels the same. he's a schoolteacher and a dad and i am a fisherman and a hunter. i know that he is a decent fellow and i respect that. he was probably worrying about me shooting my pellet gun while his kids are in the neighborhood. and i would never get a gun without my mother's permission since i am not old enough, although she seems to be okay with black powder guns. being the same caliber as a pellet gun (.22 caliber) it seems to help given that she thinks that pellet guns are weak and she would say no if i asked if i could get a Colt Walker or an 1851 Navy.
 
obtaining forgiveness is easier than obtaining permission.

Buy the gun. She doesn't need to know about it. Would you tell her if you bought condoms? But if she finds out about it, you better be prepared to move out just in case forgiveness is impossible. If you can't afford to move out yet, then maybe you better hold off on the gun. and the condoms.

Only you can make this decision.
 
Don't buy it with out your moms permission. Her house her rules, been their done that and I ended up homeless for 2 years. Take the other suggestion of growing up and moving out.
 
Remo223 i have the rubbers and now i just need a gun for the ultimate protection package! haha! i think you are right though. getting forgiveness is easier than permission. i just hope she finally sees that it is not something to be scared of. yeah, i will admit when i was younger in middle school i used to get in rumbles ditch class and screw around back then, but that was when i was young and stupid. now i am older, not impulsive, and more responsible. i can keep my cool in situations that years ago i would scream and have a cow. sometimes i feel as though she thinks i AM impulsive. it's like she thinks that if someone were to hand me some LSD and say "here, this is trippy" i would take it. i am no fool. i use good judgment. now if i were a father and my son was smoking pot, hanging out with bad people, drinking, fighting, sneaking out, etc. i would not want him to have a gun because it could cause quite some trouble.
 
just be sure you know the consequences could be that you might have to leave home. Maybe not, but maybe so. Also, make sure you aren't using money for a gun that you should be using on something else. If you do, it's a double whammy and much harder to get forgiveness.
 
[Mod Talk: Is there anything at all here that has to do with a LEGAL question or answers to such? The Legal forum is not a family counseling chat room. :)]
 
One of the best things that a young man can do is leave home. Nothing more worthless than the 30+ year old bum still living in Mommy's house and playing video games all day.

One of the best ways to leave home is to enlist in the military.
 
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