Deltaboy1984
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Game Cameras , Document and build a good 10 foot Chain link fence between you and them. See if you know the landlord and get them evicted. I'll be praying for you.
Threatned by my neighbor
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Erik M
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the landlord originally had a house on the property but it was destroyed by fire around 10 years ago. It happened just before christmas, I think it was caused by one of those crappy dollar store pre-lit christmas trees being left on for days at a time. It was really sad for him and his family. They had the property bull-dozed and moved out of the state, unfortunately we learned with the last roudy tenants who lived out of a R/V that he dosent care who lease/rents the land to as long as he gets his payment.
kmullins
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What I would do and what you SHOULD do are two very different things.
People coming onto your land uninvited while open-carrying is a sign that you need to get serious. Since you know this Sheriff fella', keep him updated with everything that happens. As other's have said, the fence idea sounds swell. Make it as tough to climb/get over as you can.
I would stay strapped and without being threatening to any of them, let them know that your not going to put up with any of this.
People coming onto your land uninvited while open-carrying is a sign that you need to get serious. Since you know this Sheriff fella', keep him updated with everything that happens. As other's have said, the fence idea sounds swell. Make it as tough to climb/get over as you can.
I would stay strapped and without being threatening to any of them, let them know that your not going to put up with any of this.
WTBguns10kOK
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Not to insult the people who suggested this, but I would never ever invite these people over to go shooting. It's a terrible idea and don't ever let your guard down. People that start this crap are never to be trusted, rational people just don't do this kind of stuff. People are habitual and will always return to their worst habits.
They're probably cowards and won't do anything, but if they abuse any substances, then anything goes. Don't ever speak to them and watch yourself, they will be unpredictable at all times.
They're probably cowards and won't do anything, but if they abuse any substances, then anything goes. Don't ever speak to them and watch yourself, they will be unpredictable at all times.
Archery Ham
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Game cameras with IR flash. I would buy a few. Aimed at the road and at your house. Hide them in bird houses, in a fake rock, larger than normal mailbox with a camera inside, etc.
Not sure if an electric fence would set them off to hurt you but just a thought.
Be safe. Keep a pistol on you at all times....and pepper spray.
Not sure if an electric fence would set them off to hurt you but just a thought.
Be safe. Keep a pistol on you at all times....and pepper spray.
Well, I know times are tough, but........do you know how much the payment he receives is, and could you & your brother make that payment? If you could guarantee him the payment, he may be persuaded to evict this outstanding "family-of-the-year" (10-1 they ain't married, and he ain't the kid's father).
Sam
ThrottleJockey72
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I'm confused, public record of criminal activity, AND guns in the trailer? I thought only violent, felony type offenses were public record. Wouldn't that mean they can't have guns?
BTW, trailers burn HOT and FAST. They catch very easily too. Not advising any type of action, just saying.
BTW, trailers burn HOT and FAST. They catch very easily too. Not advising any type of action, just saying.
Match14
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It might be expensive but if you could just rent or purchase that land, then there wouldn't be any more renters living there, unless you decide to rent.
Anyway in addition to what everyone else has said, you might want to get a security system in case they break in while your family is out of the house. Then you could notify the sheriff as soon as it happens and hopefully a camera will get good pictures. Best of luck.
Anyway in addition to what everyone else has said, you might want to get a security system in case they break in while your family is out of the house. Then you could notify the sheriff as soon as it happens and hopefully a camera will get good pictures. Best of luck.
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The title of your thread is "Threatned by my neighbor"
So exactly what threats were made against you or your family?
I hardly think the "hearsay" of a deputy concerning an unlikely lawsuit qualifies as a serious "threat".
If you're not the legal owner of the 4 acres in question, then I suggest you let the responsible parties' deal with the issue.
So exactly what threats were made against you or your family?
I hardly think the "hearsay" of a deputy concerning an unlikely lawsuit qualifies as a serious "threat".
If you're not the legal owner of the 4 acres in question, then I suggest you let the responsible parties' deal with the issue.
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Erik M
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The land in question has been in my family for 3 generations and my name is on the deed to the 4 acre plot we are discussing. I was told to "stop what I was doing immediately or I would be sorry". My land has been trespassed upon since the incident, myself and my neighbors intimidated and bewildered by their behavior.
I posted this incident for advice, not to defame or insult these people. I just asked for the best course of action to deal with the situation. I cannot comprehend you defending a convicted felon, who knowingly trespassed onto my property openly brandishing a weapon with the sole purpose to intimidate.
I posted this incident for advice, not to defame or insult these people. I just asked for the best course of action to deal with the situation. I cannot comprehend you defending a convicted felon, who knowingly trespassed onto my property openly brandishing a weapon with the sole purpose to intimidate.
ThrottleJockey72
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Once again, I just don't understand the whole convicted felon thing. Why does this person have a gun? Why haven't the police arrested this person?
Cosmoline
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The best course of action at this point is to calm down.
To sort of recap -- some good advice:
All this documenting and reporting helps establish that you are the victim. If anything untoward happens, you've made them the prime suspects. If you have to defend yourself or your family, you've laid a foundation for your claim of justification.
You might also consult a local lawyer. You may have grounds to seek a restraining order or pursue some other type of legal recouse. This doesn't necessarily solve things for you, but will help keep them on the sheriff's radar.
- game cameras
- document and report any shooting apparently coming from their place
- inspect the property line regularly documenting and photographing any signs of trespass or damage to your property
- report any instance of apparent trespass and/or damage to the sheriff and supply copies of your documentation
- document and report any contact, whether or not hostile
- always be armed on your property (and off if you can do so legally -- yes I know that Kentucky permits open carry)
- document and report and other type of suspicious or annoying activity by those neighbors
All this documenting and reporting helps establish that you are the victim. If anything untoward happens, you've made them the prime suspects. If you have to defend yourself or your family, you've laid a foundation for your claim of justification.
You might also consult a local lawyer. You may have grounds to seek a restraining order or pursue some other type of legal recouse. This doesn't necessarily solve things for you, but will help keep them on the sheriff's radar.
Tacbandit
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Be careful, Erik....Sounds like you are trying to do the right thing. You don't owe anyone
an apology over what is happening to you. Document...everything...!! Game cameras are good also. What about a moat...with alligators...never mind, they'd probably poach 'em...
Seriously though, it may seem like a pain in the rear, but take all of the annoying little steps to make your case, and you'll eventually get the scum removed...Good luck, and keep us posted.
P.S. Follow the other advice as well..."watch your back...!!!"
an apology over what is happening to you. Document...everything...!! Game cameras are good also. What about a moat...with alligators...never mind, they'd probably poach 'em...
Seriously though, it may seem like a pain in the rear, but take all of the annoying little steps to make your case, and you'll eventually get the scum removed...Good luck, and keep us posted.
P.S. Follow the other advice as well..."watch your back...!!!"
Shung
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on a side note, how much can a game camera cost ?
btw, loved the bear trap thing..
btw, loved the bear trap thing..
Clipper
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Sounds to me like there are enough of you to go collectively to the sheriff himself and demand some pressure be brought to bear. A certified letter from your attorney to the landlord notifying him about the problem and any legal headaches the attorney might be able to provide might make him rethink his policy vis-a-vis rowdy tennants. Perhaps a discrete call to the DEA about 'strange smells'...
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if this is in Appalachia i´m willing to come and play.
German speaking people in suits with Lugers
will impress your neighbours
...i also might have some contacts from back in the days,
is this in Letcher-county by any chance : ?
if this is in Appalachia i´m willing to come and play.
German speaking people in suits with Lugers
will impress your neighbours
...i also might have some contacts from back in the days,
is this in Letcher-county by any chance : ?
Tim the student
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Priceless.
Good luck man. I don't know what to tell you, other than I hope it turns out ok.
That old lady got a shotgun?
Sav .250
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I don`t know the answer but if I were you, I`d find out exactly what I could and couldn`t do on my property. Good luck.
You'll go to jail if you listen to 99% of the advice you find on the internet (here & elsewhere). At the end of the day, you need to spend some money. Game cameras are good for evidence, yet until you have a trespass warrant against someone, fairly useless (unless you caught them in an act of vandalism). A fence is a good idea, but can be uber expensive even if you do yourself. I can imagine the cost of a long fence line...
If you really feel threatened, keep your local deputy pal informed, and go see a local attorney who will tell you what you can and cannot do. Face it - many people have less than desireable neighbors. You're pretty much stuck with them until they cross the line.
If you really feel threatened, keep your local deputy pal informed, and go see a local attorney who will tell you what you can and cannot do. Face it - many people have less than desireable neighbors. You're pretty much stuck with them until they cross the line.
flying_gage
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That is a crappy and bizarre situation. I guess to one degree or another alot of us have had to deal with situations like this. My only advice is becareful about poking the bear. Putting tack strips down and messing his stuff up will inflame the situation. What little joy you have in realizing it maybe overcome when the retailiation is everyone of your tires slashed, your windows broken, your animals poisoned etc... Ya know what I mean? If you start messing with him and his own, how much are you willing to take of him coming after you and your own?
I think contacting the owner is a good avenue. Sounds as though you knew him at some level. Portray the facts to him to motivate him. If you think these folks are cooking meth? Tell him and then tell him to check into the cost of remediating a meth site. It can run into the 6 figures and it would be his responsibility. That might grab his attention.
If have a relationship with him, offer to put a fence on his property for him. Come to an arrangenment and put in a really nice fence to keep the goof balls in. Never hurts to point out the tax benefits to him to do this, either.
Just a couple thoughts here. It just sounds like you are trying to be reasonable and they are not. Just don't want to see you get into a bind where he overreacts to your actions. Absolute last thing in the world you want to have happen is an escalation of tension why'll you all are armed. At some point you may have to suck it up and make the best of it till he and his go back to where they came from.
Last thought. If you know him to be a convicted felon and can determine if he is still on parole, see if you can find his parole officer. Your Deputy friend might be able to assist there. Contact his PO and address the problems with him. That might settle things. By the way if he is a convicted felon, Wouldn't it be a felony possession charge were he to be in possession of a weapon if the sheriff came out at the right time?
Hope it helps.
I think contacting the owner is a good avenue. Sounds as though you knew him at some level. Portray the facts to him to motivate him. If you think these folks are cooking meth? Tell him and then tell him to check into the cost of remediating a meth site. It can run into the 6 figures and it would be his responsibility. That might grab his attention.
If have a relationship with him, offer to put a fence on his property for him. Come to an arrangenment and put in a really nice fence to keep the goof balls in. Never hurts to point out the tax benefits to him to do this, either.
Just a couple thoughts here. It just sounds like you are trying to be reasonable and they are not. Just don't want to see you get into a bind where he overreacts to your actions. Absolute last thing in the world you want to have happen is an escalation of tension why'll you all are armed. At some point you may have to suck it up and make the best of it till he and his go back to where they came from.
Last thought. If you know him to be a convicted felon and can determine if he is still on parole, see if you can find his parole officer. Your Deputy friend might be able to assist there. Contact his PO and address the problems with him. That might settle things. By the way if he is a convicted felon, Wouldn't it be a felony possession charge were he to be in possession of a weapon if the sheriff came out at the right time?
Hope it helps.
Fryerpower
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A game cam shot of him shooting on your range would pretty much cement the deal with the sheriff.
-Jim
I know it's been said before in this thread, but it bears repeating.
Be cool. Be cool. Be cool.
When it comes to being out trapping your property to discourage trespassing, or doing anything else in anticipation of this argument becoming violent, you could find yourself in a lot of trouble, or suffering from a great deal of regret.
While you are well within your rights (which vary from state to state so oddly) to defend yourself and your property, never forget that the best way to win a gunfight is to not be in one. Many decisions that seem appropriate in the moment, may, in the cold light of the courtroom, land you in "prohibited possessor" territory, and you'd be spending the rest of your life unarmed, which I imagine to be no fun at all.
Whatever it is you decided to do, be sure to weigh it carefully against the consequences.
Be cool. Be cool. Be cool.
When it comes to being out trapping your property to discourage trespassing, or doing anything else in anticipation of this argument becoming violent, you could find yourself in a lot of trouble, or suffering from a great deal of regret.
While you are well within your rights (which vary from state to state so oddly) to defend yourself and your property, never forget that the best way to win a gunfight is to not be in one. Many decisions that seem appropriate in the moment, may, in the cold light of the courtroom, land you in "prohibited possessor" territory, and you'd be spending the rest of your life unarmed, which I imagine to be no fun at all.
Whatever it is you decided to do, be sure to weigh it carefully against the consequences.
longdayjake
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Okay, I noticed a few things about this statement that got me thinking.
1. Convicted Felon?
2. Wearing a pistol?
3. Issuing threats/innuendos?
4. You have witnesses?
Sounds to me like probable cause to issue a search warrant for firearms. (which LE doesn't need anyway since there is a convicted felon living there). If they are parolled the posession of a gun will get it revoked real quick. Especially with witnesses that can testify to the tresspassing while wearing a firearm to make a threat. In a lot of places that can be considered "brandishing" which will also get their Parole revoked. You need to get ahold of their parole officer and let them know whats going on. If they are as much of a jerk as you say they are then their PO will be more than happy to take them back to prison.
If there are tracks on your property you should find out where they are leading to so you can make sure that you aren't growing anything illegal on your property. Also, a mine shaft is a good place to hide anything and everything. Maybe there was a totally different reason they were mad at you for shooting at that mine shaft.
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