ithacalover
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It should be as simple as: You can drink, but you can't go back on the range. And you can't get drunk.
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JoeG52
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That makes too much sense. 
sorensen440
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As much as I would enjoy having a beer after a day at the range and as responsible as I would be there just has to be the one bad apple to ruin it for everyone
Just imagine how it would be all over the news when somone gets shot at your range because someone got drunk
Just imagine how it would be all over the news when somone gets shot at your range because someone got drunk
skinnyguy
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Booze & Guns-A potential conversation
Range Mgr: Sir, you've had too much to drink and I'm going to have to ask you to stop firing your rifle, and remove it and yourself from the premises.
Drinking Rifleman: I'm not doing anything wrong and I've had 5 dead-perfect 200 yard shots out of 5.
RM: Yes sir, you have. That is quite admirable. But you are scaring the other range customers, and they have asked that you be evicted.
DR: EVICTED? Geeez! Are they embarrassed that they can't shoot as good as I can? Why should I be evicted?
RM: Because sir, that 200 yard sign you are shooting holes in is at the DRIVING RANGE!
Range Mgr: Sir, you've had too much to drink and I'm going to have to ask you to stop firing your rifle, and remove it and yourself from the premises.
Drinking Rifleman: I'm not doing anything wrong and I've had 5 dead-perfect 200 yard shots out of 5.
RM: Yes sir, you have. That is quite admirable. But you are scaring the other range customers, and they have asked that you be evicted.
DR: EVICTED? Geeez! Are they embarrassed that they can't shoot as good as I can? Why should I be evicted?
RM: Because sir, that 200 yard sign you are shooting holes in is at the DRIVING RANGE!
AlaskaErik
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That was quite some trick your friend pulled. But I have dealt with countless drunks and given countless breathalizer tests and I've never seen anyone blow .08 after one light beer. There are any number of charts that show approximate BAC based on number of drinks and weight. None will show what you have claimed. But all that aside, I don't carry if I have even one drink.
qajaq59
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If a club allows drinking it sure wont have me as a member. Some of the people I see at the range now aren't safe to be around when they're cold sober, never mind after 3 beers.
cbsbyte
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People have to understand that organized clubs, and shooting ranges have to have strict rules about drinking on the premises to do legal issues. THough it is up to the club members to decide if they want a complete ban or just restricted alchol service. Clubs can be held responsable for any acccident on the premises especially if drinking is involved. Most clubs do not have the resources or insurance to fight court battles or pay claims. Many clubs close down every year do to the expense of insurance, and operational costs. A simple court order can shut down a club, which will effect many people who will no longer have a place to shoot. In todays world it better to be safe than sorry. Now if one is shooting on private property then is up to the individial to govern their actions.
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axeman_g
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unbelievable
I am sometimes shocked at how some people on this board scream for liberties, then yell about rules are there for a reason. Well men and women, you cant have it both ways.
Of course booze and firearms dont mix. Any sensible gun owner will tell you that, and I am willing to be that if you did a poll on this board 98% of all posters will have NEVER had downed a alcholic beverage before shooting. And never would. But I am pretty sure 2% have. I did when I was young and stupid. Had a couple of beers and took some shots at some cans while camping.
But, screaming for rules that dictate no alchohol at your range is fine, but dont scream at Costco (used as example only) when they state "No Weapons" at the door to their stores. They are only doing it for the same reason, to cut their liability.
Personally, my club has a full bar and kitchen. No shooting allowed if you have had a, one, single, 1, uno, drink, a simple rule. I dont think it has ever been broken in the clubs 80+ year history. The bar is open for events and before and after meetings. Plus it add two great advantages, it is a great source of revenue for the club (avg approx $1K per week with all proceeds, even bartender tips, going to the club) and many members enjoy the camraderie of a tavern situation to tell, listen and enjoy a good hunting story. I happily volunteered to tend the bar (8 years of working my way through college tending bar) because I met most of the members that way.
Firearms and alchohol can and do coexist. Just like firearms and public places.
It takes an a55 nugget to be irresponsible make the mistake.
People need licensing and personal responsibility insurance. Not inanimate objects.
I am sometimes shocked at how some people on this board scream for liberties, then yell about rules are there for a reason. Well men and women, you cant have it both ways.
Of course booze and firearms dont mix. Any sensible gun owner will tell you that, and I am willing to be that if you did a poll on this board 98% of all posters will have NEVER had downed a alcholic beverage before shooting. And never would. But I am pretty sure 2% have. I did when I was young and stupid. Had a couple of beers and took some shots at some cans while camping.
But, screaming for rules that dictate no alchohol at your range is fine, but dont scream at Costco (used as example only) when they state "No Weapons" at the door to their stores. They are only doing it for the same reason, to cut their liability.
Personally, my club has a full bar and kitchen. No shooting allowed if you have had a, one, single, 1, uno, drink, a simple rule. I dont think it has ever been broken in the clubs 80+ year history. The bar is open for events and before and after meetings. Plus it add two great advantages, it is a great source of revenue for the club (avg approx $1K per week with all proceeds, even bartender tips, going to the club) and many members enjoy the camraderie of a tavern situation to tell, listen and enjoy a good hunting story. I happily volunteered to tend the bar (8 years of working my way through college tending bar) because I met most of the members that way.
Firearms and alchohol can and do coexist. Just like firearms and public places.
It takes an a55 nugget to be irresponsible make the mistake.
People need licensing and personal responsibility insurance. Not inanimate objects.
cbsbyte
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It might not be a issue in Idaho, but it is a very imminent threat in many Northeast states. With so many sue happy people and local DAs who would love nothing more than to make an example out of a local gun club. It would only take one minor screw up of a member to be arrested for DUI after leaving a club function to start the whole court proceddings. Also it would suit the town since land prices are sky rocketing and developers are incroaching on once isolated clubs. Towns would love to condem the property than sell it to a developer for millions. My old club had yearly issues with the town health board which wanted to shut down the clubs main building which was rented out to different organization, and was a major source of income for the club. Actually half the towns government where actively trying to find ways for the club to loose members so it would have to shut down.
Big Calhoun
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I don't know how comfortable I'd be at a club that also serves alcohol. It only would take one incident for everything to go to pot. Granted, I like having a drink after having shot off a few hundred rounds. But the gun goes in the trunk, the holster comes off, and I don't think about it until I get home.
Maybe a middle of the road approach would be to have a secure area where an uninebriated employee/club staffer could lock and store guns until the person is ready to go home with the strict rule that once you retrieve your gun, you're going home, not back out to the range.
Maybe a middle of the road approach would be to have a secure area where an uninebriated employee/club staffer could lock and store guns until the person is ready to go home with the strict rule that once you retrieve your gun, you're going home, not back out to the range.
SoCalShooter
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I would agree with the club presidente...it could possibly be a liability for the club.
MikeFF
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There is a bar near me (northern NJ) that up until about 15 yrs ago had a skeet range along with a pistol range out back.Closed the ranges down, ins. premiums were too high.To my knowledge I cant remember any incidents ever happening there.
texas bulldog
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well this has been enlightening, guys...
i'm gonna stop reading now and head over to the range. on the way home, i think i'll grab a six pack and have one or two while i clean my pistol. ammo will be in a safe in another room during said cleaning.
no shooting or driving after drinking seems a good policy to me. this is not to say i couldn't "handle" it, just that there's no good reason to take the risk or put myself in a position where others could question my faculties if something should go wrong outside of my control.
i'm gonna stop reading now and head over to the range. on the way home, i think i'll grab a six pack and have one or two while i clean my pistol. ammo will be in a safe in another room during said cleaning.
no shooting or driving after drinking seems a good policy to me. this is not to say i couldn't "handle" it, just that there's no good reason to take the risk or put myself in a position where others could question my faculties if something should go wrong outside of my control.
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