Belted .30 Carbine case?

[ReloaderFred]

Walksalong, I believe your conclusion begs the question: if it a diameter problem with Dillon's die, then why doesn't it effect all the cases?

Most of my re-resized cases emerged from the re-resizing (using Dillon's die) without any belting. If it were a diameter problem, wouldn't all the brass have been effected?

Dies are manufactured to +/- SAAMI specs. If the die is made to minimum SAAMI specs, and your chambers are maximum SAAMI specs, they're both "in specification", but there's a lot of difference between the two sizes. It's called "spec stacking". On top of that, the Dillon die probably has a rather sharp edge at the mouth, whereas the RCBS die has a radius at the mouth of the carbide insert. A sharp edge will cut, or shave, brass, while the radius edge will iron it out.

Like I said before, I'd simplify my life and use the die that works, and send the offending die back for a refund.

Hope this helps.

Fred

 

[jski]

ReloaderFred, I'm doing exactly that. I called Dillon and spoke to one of their technicians. Pleasant guy, but a bit arrogant about his products. I mentioned I had no problems with RCBS dies but plenty of problems with Dillon's. He said that was amazing considering RCBS is a C level product and Dillon is a solid A. Redding got a B.

 

[Nature Boy]

So is this a new wild cat cartridge now?

.30 H&H Carbine Magnum?

 

[ReloaderFred]

ReloaderFred, I'm doing exactly that. I called Dillon and spoke to one of their technicians. Pleasant guy, but a bit arrogant about his products. I mentioned I had no problems with RCBS dies but plenty of problems with Dillon's. He said that was amazing considering RCBS is a C level product and Dillon is a solid A. Redding got a B.

I've encountered the same thing when contacting Dillon, and I won't even go into their booth at the SHOT Show anymore. A kind of arrogance that's a put off to their products. I have and use some Dillon products, and with a couple of minor exceptions, find them no better, or no worse, than most of the others, and in loading 32 different calibers, I have tools from all the major companies and some from defunct companies. The fact of the matter is that RCBS was doing the lifetime warranty thing before Mike Dillon started making his presses, and he copied their warranty. I have a neighbor who used to own a plating company in Phoenix, AZ, and he finally told Dillon to take their business elsewhere, due to their attitude. For the rep to badmouth another companies products to a customer isn't the best business model, especially when he doesn't have the tools in hand for inspection.

I'm not trying to start a flame against Dillon, only relating that I've encountered the same attitude when talking to them, both in person and on the phone. I've also had a representative from Dillon who went out of his way to solve a problem I was having with their Model 1200 motorized case trimmer. There's good and bad in all companies, and good times and bad times in most people. If there weren't, there wouldn't be any marriages, or divorces..........

Hope this helps.

Fred