mpolk
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Picked up a Beretta 90-Two today. Internally it's very much 92 like. Exterally not so much. Has a rail and thinner grips. Uses grip modules. I really live the gun.
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It's closest living family member is the 92A1 https://www.beretta.com/en-us/92-a1/
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The Italians definitely have a, um, unique, sense of style. The Ninety-two was a bridge too far for me, lol.
Id love to have a steel-framed 92 as well, but the Bilennium was another one that I just couldnt get past the weird artistic choices.
Id love to have a steel-framed 92 as well, but the Bilennium was another one that I just couldnt get past the weird artistic choices.
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mpolk
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This one was made in Italy in 2006. I do like the grip feel better that the 92FS, but that JMHO, for what it's worth. That and $2.00 will get you a cup of coffee these days, LOL.
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A few:
You can swap out the grips to change the palm swell size, but Beretta’s grip options are slick in the hand and there are few aftermarket alternatives, if any. Customizing them means getting custom grips made or applying a skateboard-tape wrap.
Pre-made holsters are harder to come by, and nearly impossible if you want one that accommodates a light. You’re probably looking at something custom here too.
The safety parts are different, so swapping in a G kit from Beretta will not work. I don’t know if it’s possible to convert to decocker-only. The lever is easier to activate and has a more positive feel than the 92.
The sides of the slide are thicker and (theoretically) tougher.
The takedown lever will automatically reset closed when you reattach the slide, so you won’t accidentally send it downrange.
You can swap out the grips to change the palm swell size, but Beretta’s grip options are slick in the hand and there are few aftermarket alternatives, if any. Customizing them means getting custom grips made or applying a skateboard-tape wrap.
Pre-made holsters are harder to come by, and nearly impossible if you want one that accommodates a light. You’re probably looking at something custom here too.
The safety parts are different, so swapping in a G kit from Beretta will not work. I don’t know if it’s possible to convert to decocker-only. The lever is easier to activate and has a more positive feel than the 92.
The sides of the slide are thicker and (theoretically) tougher.
The takedown lever will automatically reset closed when you reattach the slide, so you won’t accidentally send it downrange.
It is my impression that the 90-Two represents an effort by Beretta to improve the venerable and highly successful model 92.
My perspective : I own a 92FS with a Vertec slide & upgraded sights. I shoot it regularly in informal steel plate competition. I have 6 Berettas total and consider myself a Beretta guy.
That said , I am curious as to whether or not the 90-Two is an improvement on the original.
My perspective : I own a 92FS with a Vertec slide & upgraded sights. I shoot it regularly in informal steel plate competition. I have 6 Berettas total and consider myself a Beretta guy.
That said , I am curious as to whether or not the 90-Two is an improvement on the original.
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The grip concept was a dud. Beretta didn't repeat it. The slide buffer, and Vertec(ish) slide were continued in the 92A1, but mostly to keep a .40 S&W in the 9X line-up. The added benefit of the replaceable front sight was a big positive and Beretta has subsequently come out with lots of models with that option.
I think in the end, it was Beretta throwing a bunch of ideas together, and putting it out there, to see what the folks liked. The descendant of the 90-Two, the 92A1, was very popular when released, as it kept most of the features folks liked about the 90-Two and dumped the odd-ball things (grip module and rail cover). However, the 92A1 is probably on the way out itself as it has been superseded by even more popular models such as the M9A3, Wilson Brigadier Tactical, Langdon Elite LTT, and the 92X. The only reason the 92A1 is still available is for the buffer for the 96A1 as it is the only .40 S&W gun in the 9X line-up.
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That is a pretty good analysis. As to the replaceable front sight , the Vertec slide gives me that - in fact it was that detail that prompted me to acquire that particular 92.
Sometimes it is difficult to improve a good product. (If it ain't broke...)
Sometimes it is difficult to improve a good product. (If it ain't broke...)
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The range owner where I go to shoot has (had?) one and I shot it multiple times. It has all the features mentioned above, better sights and the slide safety levers were designed to prevent accidental engagement racking the slide in a hurry. The rail cover was add to prevent rail damage and it was a good idea in my opinion.
I think it was superior to the Beretta 92FS but it was also more expensive.
In my opinion it was also "over designed", thanks to Mr. Giugiaro (I'm not 100% sure about that) who also drew the Px4 which is considered a ugly pistol.
I guess cars are different from pistols.
I think it was superior to the Beretta 92FS but it was also more expensive.
In my opinion it was also "over designed", thanks to Mr. Giugiaro (I'm not 100% sure about that) who also drew the Px4 which is considered a ugly pistol.
I guess cars are different from pistols.
I have a Px4 ... Decent sa/da trigger , pretty good in terms of ergonomics , I would give it good reviews ..... but I have to admit - not pretty.
Woof.
Yes, I like the 90Two and I like the Px4 very much, very accurate and very soft shooter but IMHO a more "teutonic" aesthetic would have helped.
The Beretta Neos was also drew by Giugiaro...
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Do you consider the 92 to have "a more "teutonic" aesthetic"?
And - I was trying to keep the NEOS out of my mind in contemplating the aesthetics of the PX4 , and was having moderate success - until now.
Thanks , pal.
IMO ,
The original 92 has a classic , timeless appearance.
The 90Two looks as though someone felt a marketing based need to upgrade the 92.
The PX4 Storm has sound functional merit , but aesthetically is just a good shooting blob.
Then there is the ergonomically superb buy UggLeee Walther P99 , but I digress.
Interesting , though : two European gun designer/manufacturers , each known for iconic classics , now producing highly functional but (butt) ugly pistols.
And - I was trying to keep the NEOS out of my mind in contemplating the aesthetics of the PX4 , and was having moderate success - until now.
Thanks , pal.
IMO ,
The original 92 has a classic , timeless appearance.
The 90Two looks as though someone felt a marketing based need to upgrade the 92.
The PX4 Storm has sound functional merit , but aesthetically is just a good shooting blob.
Then there is the ergonomically superb buy UggLeee Walther P99 , but I digress.
Interesting , though : two European gun designer/manufacturers , each known for iconic classics , now producing highly functional but (butt) ugly pistols.
At first I had written "masculine", then I edited the message by writing "teutonic" but perhaps I should have left it as it was. Both adjectives are probably approximate but I hope you got my point.
I have the Walther P99 AS and I don't think is that ugly . The slide is certainly "masculine" and "teutonic" . Not so the grip.
I have the Walther P99 AS and I don't think is that ugly . The slide is certainly "masculine" and "teutonic" . Not so the grip.
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I picked it up pretty cheap and it looks almost like it was never shot, although it has been, but very little. I really like the way it feels better than the 92fs, but that's JMHO. The rail cover was not with it, but does not hurt my feelings. It makes it look lake an after-thought in the pics I see with it. According to the reviews back when it first came out they were well received but the buying public didn't want the change, so discontinued it was, in 2012. It won't replace any of my 1911's but it will get shot and I like it.
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