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the lug looks good but the plunger looks pretty chewed up will post picks later tonight i did order a new one
Beretta 92 fs help
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When they first foisted the M-9s on usin the Army, it took me the better part of a year to qualify Expert in easy fashion as I was used to.
It always struck me odd that the 1911 or almost any other full/mid size we'd bring out presented no problem but those damn Berettas took their own learning curve. I could be out on the range with all things being equal and shoot any of our arms-room's full or mid size pistols and any privately owned weapons we brought out MUCH better than the Berettas. I even tried other pistols as we had 12 on the Team and no joy.
Simply took me learning to shoot THAT design all over again.
Ultimately, it most certainly was worth it. Having a good-shootin M-9 and at least 45 rounds of 9mm as a back-up overseas put to rest my long love for the 1911 as a Service/Field pistol.
Todd.
It always struck me odd that the 1911 or almost any other full/mid size we'd bring out presented no problem but those damn Berettas took their own learning curve. I could be out on the range with all things being equal and shoot any of our arms-room's full or mid size pistols and any privately owned weapons we brought out MUCH better than the Berettas. I even tried other pistols as we had 12 on the Team and no joy.
Simply took me learning to shoot THAT design all over again.
Ultimately, it most certainly was worth it. Having a good-shootin M-9 and at least 45 rounds of 9mm as a back-up overseas put to rest my long love for the 1911 as a Service/Field pistol.
Todd.
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At the first gun shop/range where I worked we got in a Colt Commander in .45 ACP that had somehow made it out of the factory without any rifling in the barrel. It had a completely smooth bore. One of our instructors took it over to our range and shot a five-shot group at 7 yards with it. Thanks to the lack of rifling the bullets were keyholing, but he still managed a 3” group.
If a handgun is only capable of 4” groups at 7 yards then it’s definitely possible something is severely out of whack with the gun, but I think it’s far more likely it’s the shooter. I’d be willing to bet that bench-shooting that gun in single action will produce much better than 4” groups.
If a handgun is only capable of 4” groups at 7 yards then it’s definitely possible something is severely out of whack with the gun, but I think it’s far more likely it’s the shooter. I’d be willing to bet that bench-shooting that gun in single action will produce much better than 4” groups.
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It's not the shooter it's the pistol.
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I couldn't shoot mine worth a darn when I first got it, with my shots all over the place as compared to my other pistols.
I finally sat down and did a series of very slow fire, bench shots paying very close attention to pistol stability throughout my trigger pull as I concentrated on maintaining the sight picture.
My shots were pretty much dead on doing that, which told me the problem wasn't the pistol.
All my other pistols at the time had 1911 style trigger pulls... namely triggers which pulled straight back in the frame, not pivoting. The 92FS trigger, however, pivots.
That was the difference.
Put in some similar bench rest shooting and see if your accuracy and spread improves. Pay close attention to to pull and maintaining your sight picture.
I finally sat down and did a series of very slow fire, bench shots paying very close attention to pistol stability throughout my trigger pull as I concentrated on maintaining the sight picture.
My shots were pretty much dead on doing that, which told me the problem wasn't the pistol.
All my other pistols at the time had 1911 style trigger pulls... namely triggers which pulled straight back in the frame, not pivoting. The 92FS trigger, however, pivots.
That was the difference.
Put in some similar bench rest shooting and see if your accuracy and spread improves. Pay close attention to to pull and maintaining your sight picture.
All of those pictures look perfectly normal. I see absolutely nothing at all that is cause for concern or indicative of unusual wear, damage, breakage or defective parts.
I definitely agree that it takes something severely wrong with a gun for it to legitimately be grouping 4" at 21 feet.
That's what I was trying to get across with my initial posts. There would have to be something very loose in the gun that was allowing the barrel to move around freely to an unusually large extent. Or something broken or damaged enough to cause lockup to be very inconsistent.
For example, in one of his posts, pblanc mentioned that: "In the case of my Beretta 92 FS there is a gap of about 1.4 mm between the top of the barrel and the top strap of the slide." That's about right, and it's important to note that even if the muzzle could move over that entire range freely, that 1.4mm of play at the muzzle alone wouldn't be enough to cause 4" groups at 21 feet. It would take more than that--probably around 2mm of play. In other words, there's not even enough room in the hole in the front of the slide to allow the barrel to move enough to cause 4" groups. So the back of the barrel would have to move around too, or maybe the rear sight is loose and moving around. With the barrel loose at both ends, or if the sight was really moving around, those things could account for the kinds of groups you're seeing.
There are other things that could result in accuracy issues. Perhaps the bore is wrecked/badly leaded/defective and is throwing spitballs instead of spinning the bullets downrange. Or maybe there's a big gouge at the crown of the muzzle that's knocking the bullets off kilter as they leave the muzzle. Those things would mess with the accuracy, but as pointed out, even one of those problems would be hard pressed to mess things up enough to generate 4" groups at only 21 feet.
I'm hoping you figure out what the deal is, because if there's something wrong with the gun that's causing that much of an accuracy issue that close to the muzzle, it's going to be very interesting. Especially at this point with all the checks you've done so far.
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no it doesn't just fall out i have to wiggle it out the crown on the barrel looks good the barrel looks clean But just in case I will re clean
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I just bought a 92fs and have had it to the range once. Extremely accurate at 15 feet. I'm going to use a sandbag tomorrow and work my way out to 50 ft.
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Have you been shooting lead bullets thru your Beretta? There could be a lead buildup in the lands and grooves that would cause poor accuracy.
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The problem was the barrel lug I replaced it a wile back shoots awesome now
Glad you solved your issue and thanks for letting us know...with that I think we can put this thread to bed
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