Best all-around rifle for hunting deer, pronghorn/antelope in west Texas?

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Living in Texas for the last decade or so, I've always wanted to get out in time for deer hunting / pronghorn hunting season.

However, without a rifle, I won't get too far ;)

What's the best intersection between price, accuracy and usability?

Any thing in bolt-action with a magazine that's recommendable?
 
Youll get a whole slew of recommendations depending on what WE personally like. Id suggest remington, ruger, savage, tikka, howa, browning, winchester, sako....um....damnit i cant think of anymore right now :p
Honestly tho, pretty much any middle priced off the shelf rifle with a decent scope of moderate power will get you where you wanna be. Best choice would be to go to your LGD and try out as many differant guns as you can till you find one that realy fits nicely, if he dosent have it in a cartridge you like, then he can probobly order one......Cartridges, now theres a topic for debate :D, id got with anything .25 to 7mm of medium to fast flavor.
 
Cooper Arms M22 Phoenix chambered in 6.5x55 SE would be my choice, but I'm a huge fan of the 6.5x55mm for long distance accuracy and light recoil and a sucker for the Cooper
 
something to consider meyer be a savage model 16 in 25-06, 6.5x284 or the 7mm mag. this will give you a nice rifle that should shoot around a .25 min. group any given day. and I like the other guy like the 6.5s they are making great bullets for them.
 
Before I read the replies I was going to suggest a 25-06. My uncles 25-06 is such a sweet/flat shooter and can really reach out there with minimal recoil.
 
+1 on the 25-06. Mine's a Steyr prohunter. The 25-06 is plenty to work on antelope and west Texas deer. Shoots flatter than most. My second choice would be the 6.5x55, another great round that shoots pretty flat and still reaches out.
 
Savage 116 in .30-06 0r .270. 25-06 really gets pushed around by wind and most really accurate models are target/varmint guns that have really heavy barrels and stocks more suited to shooting off a bench than carrying around. The cartridge is capable, but your heaviest bullet is 120 grains or so. You can purchase 30-06 up to 220 gr moose thumpers, the 270 is a great compromise in power and long range accuracy.

If you prefer a true medium action CZ's 550 in .308 would be a great choice too. Fit and finish are, in my opinion, superior to most American mass manufactured steel and wood rifles and they use a true Mauser action.

Remington and Ruger make fine rifles as well, and can often be purchased as 'package deals' at local big box retailers.

Fact is, all of the big name mfg's make a rifle capable of putting 3 bullets in a 1 inch circle at 100 yards. Find the one that fits you best and spend some time shooting it on the bench and in the field and you'll have fun and get 'dialed in' before deer and antelope season get here.
 
I would say a 7mm-08 shooting 120-140gr Barnes ttsx bullets or Berger 140gr VLD hunting bullets. Pretty flat shooting, too. Those 7mm bullets have very good ballistics past 200 yds...
 
"...pretty much any middle priced off the shelf rifle with a decent scope of moderate power will get you where you wanna be."

That LoonWulf is a pretty smart fella. :D

My father sporterized a couple of Springfields, back in the 1940s. Killed bunches of mule deer, using 150-grain Hornady spirepoints. I've not killed as many, but I've found that the Sierra 150-grain soft points work very well.

I could have taken my .243 on my one antelope hunt, but for whatever reason I had more confidence that day to use my '06. Maybe a Zen thing. Wasn't but maybe 125 yards, though.

My father's rifles had a Weaver K6 on one and an old Stith Bear Cub 4X on the other. I generally use the old Leupold Vari-X II 3x9, but most of the time it's set on 3X. I know 3X works quite well at 350 yards, though, as one buck discovered.

If you're gonna spend money on glass, put it in the binoculars...

In the FWIW department, if you don't handload, a .308 will work as well as an '06...

A seriously good, hot, accurate load in either the .308 or the '06 is the Federal Premium High Engery. In the '06, it gets an honest 3,150 ft/sec with the 165 Sierra HPBT, according to one guy's chronograph--which is more than my handloads with that bullet would do from my own 26" barrel. Suib-MOA off my bencrest.
 
I had to see what others recommended.
I live in the west and have gotten shots at various game out to 500+ yards with very good results. I am very confident in my ability to shoot that far and further. I am also pretty much immune to recoil, although I have found some very large calibers unpleasant to shoot more than 2 or 3 rounds threw. In an average year I shoot upwards of fifty rounds per week, July-September at various ranges in preparation for the fall/winter hunting I do. After the general seasons where 1 or 2 rounds are fired, I go to predator hunting where any number of rounds may be fired each trip out. (I do reload for everything I shoot except shotgun.)
Much depends on what your perception of range, recoil and what your abilities are/will be.
Calibers of choice run from .25 threw .30. The later will be deemed by many as extreme, I prefer the .284's (7mm), but all will do the job if you do your part. Don't buy a magnum, (I love 'em, have 3 that I shoot often, 7mm STW, 300 Win. and .338 Win) you don't need them, many non-magnums will do everything those magnums will do, just a few milliseconds slower and the delivered energy difference is minimal. Don't think that a .25 caliber or a short 7mm is going to be easier on the shoulder, it doesn't work that way. More powder normally equates to more recoil, there are exceptions, a good muzzle brake on any rifle is a plus.
The best advise I can give, buy a caliber that is common and ammo is readily available across the counter, (assuming you don't reload) and a rifle scope combo that you can afford and carry all day without tiring you out.
At the present time and after reading an article in a magazine, I would oft for a new Savage Edge XP
18934 25-06 REM 1 in 10" 22" 43.875" 6.5 lbs
18935 270 WIN 1 in 10" 22" 43.875" 6.5 lbs
18936 30-06 SPFLD 1 in 10" 22" 43.875" 6.5 lbs
18933 308 WIN 1 in 10" 22" 43.875" 6.5 lbs
These are combos with a 3-9x40mm scope. All have a 4 round capacity detachable magazine. I excluded the 7mm-08 due to the 1 in 11.5" twist that is not conducive to heavier bullets which you may want to use at some point in time. The only bad thing I read about this rifle was the trigger pull weight. This may or may not be an issue with a new rifle shooter. You can visit the Savage sight at this URL http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/featured/
You can also pickup a copy of Rifle Shooter Magazine and read the article.
I also like the Browning A-bolt (have 3), Remington 700 BDL (have 4 even though they aren't equipped with a detachable magazine), and others thiat include 3 custom Mausers.
I have owned in excess of 200 bolt rifles in the last 40 years, I am not an expert, but want those beginning now to get the most for their money and time spent afield.

Ray

Let us know what you decide on.
 
If you prefer a true medium action CZ's 550 in .308 would be a great choice too. Fit and finish are, in my opinion, superior to most American mass manufactured steel and wood rifles and they use a true Mauser action.
Tikka T3 6.5x55 Swede

How about a combination of the two?

The combination of the quality of action and wood of the CZ 550 and the 6.5x55mm would be very nice.

The only reason I opted for the Steyr Pro Hunter, I was looking at both the Tikka and CZ, was because CDNN was having a clearance sale when Steyr was reorganizing.

My first choice was the .260 because it was a more efficient package then the 6.5x55mm...but they were sold out of both. I settled for the 7mm-08...I've just gotten pass the point of beating myself up with 30'06 length cartridges, like the .25-06, .270 or .280
 
I would vote for the .270. I've seen off brands such as J. C. Higgins, Hawthorne even Savage go for low bucks used.

Never been there but always wondered, maybe you could answer for me.

Does the wind blow in west Texas?

'Drifter
 
I agree with the 6.5 x 55 Swede and would pick the CZ or TIKKA rifle for best value for money and incredible accuracy.

I got rid of all of my metric and odd ball caliber rifles and loading stuff a while back and consodated them to .308 and I hunt with a 30 06 now.

I have missed that sweet 6.5 x 55 for several years now. Best cartridge I have ever used for Texas hunting. It is extremely accurate especially with handloads. Very pleasant recoil and drops deer dead in their tracks.

I believe this is the most overlooked cartridge around.
 
I don't have the tools for reloading, so it'd definitely have to be a caliber that's readily available. 25-06 seems to be pretty popular as far as the replies go.

The Marlin XL7 and the Savage 116 seem to be the top two contenders so far - anyone have recommendations as far as a scope goes? I work part time as a photographer, so I know that good glass gets expensive real quick heh.
 
Wow, not much else to add here. Just do what everyone else recommended:

A good quality rifle in .25-06, .270, or .280. + A decent quality scope in good mounts. + Some practice at the range before season. = Successful hunting when you are within reasonable rifle range of your quarry.
 
Those are both great rifles. I would also look at the T/C Venture, and see what feels best to you. As for glass, it all depends on your budget and how much power you want. I have 2 nikon Buckmaster scopes that I've been very happy with. One is 3-9x40, the other is 4.5-14 x 40.
 
OK then. Down to brass tacks here it is.

Go buy one of these combos and be done with it:

The low end all American made combo: Savage 110 with Accutrigger mounting a Leupold VX-I or Redfield 3-9X40 variable.

The middle of the road American made combo: Ruger 77 MK II with a Leupold VX-II 3-9X40 variable.

The higher end American made combo: Cooper Firearms Model 52 mounting a Leupold VX-III 3.5-10X40 variable.

Or you can go for the foreign made rifles and scopes.

Low end foreign made setup: Weatherby Vanguard (made by Howa) with a 3-9X40 Nikon Buckmaster.

Middle of the road foreign: Browning X-Bolt (Miroku Japan) mounting a Nikon Monarch 3-10X42.

Higher end foreign: Sako Model 85 mounted with a Zeiss Conquest in 3.5-10X44.

Mix and match optics and rifles to suit your budget.

Caliber for all...... your choice of .25-06 Remington, and .270 Winchester.
 
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