Best price on a '58 Remington, preferably Uberti... ?

[goon]

Anyone know where I can get the best deal on a Uberti 1858 Remington .44? I kind of prefer the Uberti version because the dovetailed front sight gives me at least a little windage adjustment if needed.
This won't be my first black powder revolver - I did own a Lyman .36 Remington for a bit but it had issues so it went back to the gun store. I've wanted another since then. I'm thinking the Remington will probably be the first in what will probably grow to a long collection... I'm already salivating over the prospect of a square triggerguard 1851, a 1860, and maybe a Third Model Dragoon too. But I want the Remington to start with.
If anyone can please direct me to a reputable outfit to deal with (or maybe has one they'd consider selling to a loving new owner), please let me know.
Thanks.

 

[bigbadgun]

Try Dixie Gun Works and im sure others will jump in and add there perfered vendors.

 

[tpelle]

Pretty sure it's not the one you want, with the dovetailed front sight, but I just scored a .44 Remington from Cabelas this evening for $179.00 delivered! Timing was perfect to catch a sale, plus a $30.00-off coupon.

 

[Bullwinkle]

Hey, goon. I did the same deal as tpelle. It doesn't get much cheaper than that! Although it's a Pietta, not Uberti.

The cheapest price I've seen for a Uberti NMA is at S&S Firearms in Glendale NY... $260
if thier pricing is current. Check it out at www.ssfirearms.com. I hope that helps.

 

[Hellgate]

Goon & Bullwinkle,
I haven't checked lately but S&S firearms usually sells Euroarms revolvers, not Ubertis. Yes, they do have dovetail front sights but they have much smaller grips than the Uberti and especially the Piettas (even bigger grips). The euros are the lightest of all the common Remmies. I like 'em.

 

[Indian Outlaw]

Just ordered a Euroarms Remington Navy from S&S Firearms. Will give a report when it arrives.

It was only $207.00.

 

[goon]

Thanks a lot guys.
Right now I'm doing research and figuring out how I'm going to afford it. So since no money will be changing hands for a bit (unless I find a freaking great deal and give in to temptation), any information/advice you guys have for a comparative newbie (I've put about 50 shots through a C&B revolver but nothing like what you guys have shot) will be appreciated.

 

[jcowan]

I also got the Pietta from Cabelas and love it. The fit and finish is great. Maybe you can get it from Cabelas and do a custom front sight. I think you would be really happy with the gun.

 

[Gatofeo]

Avoid the brass-framed revolvers, when you order. Brass-framed revolvers typically are not as well made as their steel-framed counterparts. Also, brass-framed guns will wear out much earlier and there is evidence that the brass frame will stretch.
The above occurs when using full-powered loads. For the Remington, this would be about 40 grs. of FFFG black powder under a .454 inch ball, with no felt wad between ball and powder.
With a brass-framed Remington, it would be prudent not to use loads of more than 30 grs. FFFG under a ball, or equivalent.
Steel-framed guns are more durable and, on the whole, tend to have better fit and finish.

For a bargain, do an internet search. A check with Dixie Gun Works would give you a baseline price. Just make sure that you're comparing apples to apples, and not an Uberti to a Pietta or Armi San Marcos. Ubertis are higher-priced for good reason: their fit and finish are consistently better.

 

[goon]

I think I definitely want the Uberti. I have seen some Piettas and although the fit and finish still looked really good to me, I like the fact that the front sight on the Uberti is dovetailed. I have never liked the whole adjusting your point of aim like six inches to the left thing - I want my sights dead on, at least with windage. A little high is OK, but low or off to the side needs adjustment and a dovetailed sight makes it much less of an issue.

Bit of a thread hi-jack, but its my thread...
If you use something like a cast .454 inch LRN or RNFP that's been prelubed, do you still need to use grease over the end of the chambers or will the grease on the bullet seal things up?

 

[Hellgate]

I always grease over the ball or bullet. I also put a lubed felt wad under the ball or bullet.

 

[Acorn Mush]

If you use something like a cast .454 inch LRN or RNFP that's been prelubed, do you still need to use grease over the end of the chambers or will the grease on the bullet seal things up?

As long as the bullets fit tightly in the chambers, as evidenced by shaving off a ring of lead when ramming down, you need not use additional lube unless you wish to.

Try felt wads, both lubed and dry, under the bullets as Hellgate suggests, though. They might improve accuracy. You will never know for sure unless you try.

 

[goon]

As long as the bullets fit tightly in the chambers, as evidenced by shaving off a ring of lead when ramming down, you need not use additional lube unless you wish to.

Try felt wads, both lubed and dry, under the bullets as Hellgate suggests, though. They might improve accuracy. You will never know for sure unless you try.

Thanks. At this point it's academic...
I can't afford a C&B revolver yet but I am so infatuated with them right now. I want to start with a Remington .44 but I also want a couple Colts and eventually maybe a Remington snubby.

But I am filing away all this advice and insight you guys are giving me. I really appreciate it.