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Best Ranges/Gun shops in San Antonio?

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  1. M2

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    Might want to check on SAXET, I went last month and was told it was the last one for several months as the venue (S.A. Airport Convention Center) was sold and would be leveled to build a new hotel. However, there was a tattoo show there this past weekend. The SAXET web site just mentions the change, it does not state if there is a show or not. It used to list dates, now I notice it doesn't...:scrutiny:

    Cheers! M2
     
  2. Richiec77

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    I'm a newby to the SA area and have had great dealing with the powderhorn and Wayne at Hoguns. Wayne helped me set up my rig for comp shooting. Very hepful guy. Very knowledgeable. From what I've seen and the guns he's put out, he's almost a defacto for comp pistols.

    Dave at the powderhorn has been super helpful with me and buying my 1st couple of handguns. I had bought a Sigma 9mm from him and a day later I was at Academy getting some ammo and saw the same piece for $50 less. When I called he said he would help me out by giving me a gift cert for $50. Great place to deal with so far. Their prices are definitly going to be higher then online. What store can really match online sales? The overhead is higher and they have to make enough to cover operating cost right?

    Ever since I bought my Glock, I've been at the bullethole about 4x a week (I'm on terminal leave from Hood) Everyone there has been awesome to deal with. I've started shooting in their USPSA IPSC league and I love it. Never been more happy with a place then this. It's a family run business and it feels like it.

    Hope to see some of you around the area.

    Side note. I'm thinking about selling my glock 22 if anyone is interested. Just bought it, but the grip angle is giving me fits. Just isn't sitting natural enough for me. I need a more straight up grip angle.
     
  3. target4fun

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    Ive been to all of the gun shops listed on this forum and by far durys has the best service and prices. I live 45 minutes from durys and would gladly make a drive there than to any other closer gun store because they are reasonably priced and service after the sale is the best in town.
     
  4. M2

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    Just a revival to let everyone know that Sportsman's Warehouse at 410/151 is closing the end of January. They have a 'going out of business' sale going but the downside is that everything--to include non-sale items--are non-returnable, even at the Sportsman's Warehouse at 1604/281 which is remaining open.

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  5. GEM

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    By now, most of the firearms are picked over. The handguns are gone but the prices were a tad too much even with the discount.

    Same with knives - base prices were too high. However, on some ammo, supplies, clothes, etc. You can do ok.
     
  6. 1SOW

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    +1 on Bullethole's League Shooting, RO's, shooters.

    Shot through the barrel just last Sunday. I drive 35 miles to get there.
    I'm thinking about trying AASA too....also good people!

    I don't like their basic pistol range.
    Bexar Community Range is closer for me, much more flexible, good people
    too, but costs a little more.
     
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    I hope SW at 1604/281 stays open, I spend a lot of money there.
     
  8. M2

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    No plans to close, as far as I know.

    And the firearms were picked over shortly after the sale started. What pissed me off was that I bought some rifle socks and they were full priced, so not everything is on sale and as I said, no refunds/exchanges allowed even for items purchased at the full price.

    Cheers! M2
     
  9. jsimmons

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    I've been to Bullet Hole, Bracken, Bexar County, and the CTSA silhouette range (next door to Dietz). Since the CTSA silhouette range is for competition (or member practice), it's not really appropriate to discuss in the same vein as public ranges, but their silhouette setup is pretty nice (but it could be better).

    As far as Bullet Hole is concerned, sure it's inexpensive to shoot (if you're shooting more than one gun and one target, but I don't like the range layout. At the 50-yard rifle line, there's two pistol lines BEHIND you with no berms blocking the line of sight between the firing lines. The targets are hung from thick twine which is subjected to the nearly constant windy conditions there. Further, you're not permitted to shoot offhand on the 100-yard rifle line (I do ALL of my practice shooting offhand), and it's real easy to walk into the 100-yard field of fire - there is NOTHING preventing you from doing so - no signs, not fence, not evven orange traffic cones. Lastly, I have yet to see a range master - at all. The ONLY reason I've gone there is it's real close in terms of driving, and I can use my own targets. I consider it to be an unsafe range. They provide ear/eye protection, and those cheap plastic rests that should be filled with sand, but aren't (and rifles tend to slip off of them).

    Bracken is the complete opposite of Bullet Hole - the targets are mounted on stationary frames, offhand shooting is permitted on all rifle firing positions, and there's a range master on duty at all times. The only problem I have with Bracken is that I can't use my own targets on weekends. It's also kinda pricey at $3.50 per gun, and $3.50 per target. Like someone else said, it can get crowded, but not unreasonably so. They provide ear/eye protection, carpeted rests, and (cheap) spotting scopes.

    Bexar County Municiple is east 1604 on Highway 90, and is very poorly maintained as far as the rifle and pistol ranges are concerned. On the other hand, the skeet ranges are manicured lawns with bleachers for observers/audiences. They allow you to use your own targets, but the rifle and pistol range is completely unmonitored. I consider it to be an unsafe range if there's more than two or three people shooting. As far as I know, they do NOT provide ear/eye protection or spotting scopes.

    Gun Shops

    The PowderHorn (Loop 410 @ Highway 90) - Nice, clean and generally uncluttered store with lots of antique or replica firearms, lots of shotguns, and a lot of military surplus rifles (mostly russian stuff). There selection of .22's is limited, and lever guns seem to be an afterthought as far as stock on hand is concerned. HOWEVER, the folks are real nice, and their blacksmith is almost always available for simple "while-you-wait" service, and the smithing services are reasonably priced.

    Dury's Guns (Hotwells off Highway 37) - Clean and uncluttered, but with lots of inventory. They are priced higher than many of the smaller shops, but every gun they sell - new OR used - has a lifetime warranty. I bought a CZ-452 Silhouette .22LR from them. I called them to see how much it would be to drill/tap a hole for a tang sight on my Henry .22 lever gun, and they quoted me $80. That's your typical "I-don't-want-to-do-it" price..

    Hoguns (Culebra outside Loop 410) - I took my Henry .22LR in there for them to drill/tap a hole for a tang sight. WI asked if they could please put the globe sight (supplied by me) on the gun as well (killing two birds with one stone such as it was). The guy said "Nope, you can do that yourself." Needless to say, I was baffled as to why he would turn away business like that. I went ahead and had them drill/tap, but I won't ever go back to their store due to his refusal to install the globe site. After getting my rifle back ($35 and a week later), I went home and tried to remove the factory sight. I ended up bending a brass drift punch in half, without so much as budging the sight. I took it to PowerHorn and he charged me $15 and did it while I waited.

    Nagel's (San Pedro Rd inside Loop 410) - If a fire marshal ever walked inside, he'd shut them down. It's impossible to make it down an aisle without having to use sidestepping. The people appear to be nice enough, but I can't get past the clutter and apparant disarray.

    Bass Pro Shops (IH 10-west outside Loop 1604) - Their prices are outrageously high. I don't understand the attraction to the place.

    Texas Guns (Bandera Rd outside Loop 410) - I was looking for some .22 stuff, and they had NOTHING for that caliber - guns, or otherwise). Parking sucks, but the store is reasonably uncluttered and easy to move around in.

    I like .22 rifles and lever guns. San Antonio gun shops are not what I would call .22 friendly. Everybody here seems to want high-power over-scoped rifles, or shotguns. You would think being in Texas, it would be a simple matter to find a good selection of lever guns too, but that's not the case. Pretty much anything other than a Marlin 39a requires a special order. If I'm going to special order, I'll go to Walmart because they simply charge you for the rifle and the tax, and nothing more. At Dury's I had to pay a "special order fee" AND "shipping costs" for my CZ.

    Saxet Gun Show

    They've moved the gun show to the Alfazar Shrine to the north side on (outside) 1604 east of IH 10. However, be sure to check the website because I've heard they're going to move it again.
     
  10. Austin Cowart

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    My 2 Cents

    The Bullet Hole off of Highway 90 right out past 1604 is the best range around! Great service, nice people, 3 dollar member ID and then 7 dollars afterwards with no gun limit, RAPID FIRE, and automatic weapon rentals where all you pay is 15 dollars a clip! Check them out at www.bullethole.com

    Cheers
    Austin
     
  11. LSDude

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    Indoor Range

    I shot at Bass Pro last week and it is well constructed and reasonable.

    It's a good way to beat the heat.
     
  12. Mike Franklin

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    Dury's is by far better to deal with and yep, a gun part breaks on any gun they sold you they fix it free.
    Cedar Ridge is famous for running off customers. The CAS club moved recently. Several of my friends were banned. Everyone of'm for shooting target stand legs(?) Unfortunately Ferris can not be depended on to be truthful and apparently just doesn‘t like some people…..
    I have 110 acres behind my backyard so don't go to a range except for competition.
    BTW, the weekend Manager at A Place To Shoot, is much nicer and easier to get along with than the weekday Manager.
     
  13. M2

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    Shot at Blackhawk Range this past Sunday for a River City Shooters IDPA match, and to be honest I don't think I am going to go to the regular range and stand and shoot at paper targets anymore! IDPA is a lot more fun and challenging, it is a good way to further develop your skills, and you will learn more from this kind of shooting than you ever will at a static range.

    I have to thank Wayne at HoGuns Sporting (mentioned earlier). Whereas Wayne may not have the largest shop in town, he will work to get you the best deal on any gun you want. Drury's and Nagel's are OK, but they are usually crowded and I believe that Wayne will beat any deal they've got. HoGuns is now the first place I recommend to people looking for a gun shop, and I may go look at the other shops; but when I want to buy, I go see Wayne...

    By the way, I took a shotgun to Wayne because the end of the barrel got a slight dent in it. He recommended a way for me to fix it myself. I don't think he is trying to turn away business, but actually trying to help you save money on work you can do yourself. I did fix the barrel, cost me about $8 for a plumb bob which did the trick.

    I had a bad experience at the Powderhorn that I think I mentioned. Got a guy who wasn't willing to work a deal despite the fact that the two of us wanting to buy the Mossbergs knew we could get better deals at the SAXET show. We didn't ask him to match the price, just give us a break since we were buying two guns. The reply we got was rude, and needless to say I wouldn't buy a gun from that shop even if they had the Springfield M1911A1 I've been looking for...

    By the way, the SAXET shows are now mainly at the Freeman Coliseum next to the AT&T Center (where the Spurs play). They still have them at the Alfazar Shrine once or twice a year, but the monthly shows are at the Freeman. Check SAXET's site for all the info you need...

    Cheers! M2
     
  14. senior

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    WELL AWARE OF TEXAS GUNS and their indoor range, unless u got a pocketfull of cash, stay away, cost $365.00 a year to join and u MUST use their ammo! (priced wayyy outta line too) buying their guns expect to pay MSRP at least and NEVER try to sell a gun to them, offer u pitance for any gun. Owner is a nice guy, but prices are skyhigh, use a gunsmith and base charge is $55.00 to just look at it!! Example- kel tec i looked at, asking $330.00 for a p32. +++ for Ho GUNS, Wayne is a super guy and like someone said before, will offer free advice to help a person to save a buck!
     
  15. beaucoup ammo

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    I'm going to Dury's later. They've got some .38 hollow point and some .357. But not much of either.
     
  16. Geno

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    I have only been there once, but sure enjoyed myself. The folks were nice as could be:

    Bullet Hole Shooting Range
    2715 Grosenbacher Road
    San Antonio, TX 78245

    :D Geno
     
  17. beaucoup ammo

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    Thanks, Geno...I've still got some cheap .38 ammo I got in January. May just head over!
     
  18. M2

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    Well, I finally got a chance to stop by a new gun shop called Lock-N-Load (12135 Potranco, just before the Alamo Fireworks stand on the north side of the road).

    Went in and met a guy named Mike, a real nice fellow. They have a small selection of handguns and hunting rifles, but not much else. I didn't notice any ammo, but I may have missed it. Being that they are on the way to the Bullethole, and the Walmart at 1604 and Potranco is touch-and-go for ammo, it would be a smart idea to stock up on it as the prices at the Bullethole are a bit ridiculous.

    Mike said they just opened a week ago, and that business has been brisk. He realizes he needs to get more stuff in the store, but obviously they need to sell some stuff to do that. He also said they are working on a web site, but none exists at the moment.

    Overall, it is a nice shop but needs merchandise. To compete with the Powderhorn, Dury's, Nagel's or even the Bullethole, they will need guns and ammo on the shelf. Given that they've just opened, I am willing to give them a little time to get their feet wet; I plan to drop by again in a few weeks to see how they've progressed. Hopefully they will have.

    Lastly, their number is (21) 314-8694 if anyone wants to give them a call.

    Cheers! M2
     
  19. M2

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    Oh, and if anyone is considering heading over to the big gun show in Houston this weekend (allegedly the largest in Texas! See info here), don't bother. My son and I got up at 4:30am this morning to drive over (we had to stop for breakfast) and while it is about four times larger than the SAXET show here in San Antonio, we couldn't find any decent prices on anything with one exception. I did pick up a 1943 Izhevsk Mosin-Nagant in nice shape for $99, but my quest for a decent M44 or M38 went unfulfilled. The ones I saw were crap, and all were overpriced. It wasn't worth the 450-mile round trip.

    Lastly, SAXET is ending its events at the Freeman Coliseum after December. Starting in January, the shows will be at the San Antonio Events Center at Marbach and 410 (8111 Meadow Leaf, San Antonio, TX 78227). It is the same place Texas Gun Shows holds their events. That's a much shorter drive for me, and no more $3 to park!

    Cheers! M2
     
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    That's a nice change. The Freeman shows were a pain to go to.
     
  21. beaucoup ammo

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    Saxet in S.A. Nov. 14th and 15th.
     
  22. M2

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    Yeah, just to ensure everyone realizes, the remaining 2009 SAXET shows (Nov and Dec) will still be held at the Freeman Auditorium.

    It is only the shows starting in Jan 2010 that will be held at the SA Event Center at Marbach and 410!
     
  23. soup54

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    Drurys is great IMO. Just went there today and enjoyed my time at the shop. Very well stocked new and used, great staff and patient with me while touching every pistol before I purchased. I never felt rushed or pressured into the sale (unlike Texas Guns and Nagels-I still visit both often but seldomly purchase from them).

    I plan to purchase firearms from Drurys in the future.
     
  24. M2

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    Well, a little bad news; Hoguns is closing!

    Wayne is retiring from the firearms business and is shutting the doors in about a month. I believe his FFL expires about the same time, which may account in part for his decision to retire. Wayne hopes to sell the store but if that doesn't happen (it doesn't seem likely), it appears he'll sell remaining inventory en mass. No word on what will happen to Chris, his gunsmith and one of the best smiths in SA. Hopefully he'll get picked up by another good shop nearby.

    While not having the largest selection in town, Hoguns was always a great "local" gun shop. It was a great place to hang out and talk about guns and other things, and Wayne was very active in the pistol competitions down at Backhawk Range. Hopefully he'll continue after the shop closes, it would be a shame otherwise...

    Cheers! M2
     
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