BrownsFans - I have had pretty good experiences with the Blazer 158 HP for a fairly mild and accurate range load. It isn't much of a hollow point these days, more of a dimple, but the price is usually good and CCI claims it to be about 1150 fps from a 4 inch barrel which is about 85 fps less than claimed for most 158 grain loads. I haven't chronographed it but recoil suggests it is less hotly loaded than S&B (hot) or MagTech, or certainly the premium loads like HydraShok, etc. It usually doesn't extract quite as well, no doubt due to the aluminum cases.