Its like geez were just talking about what we think works well or what we've seen perform well and you just want to sit here and nitpick details go away.
Yeah, Shawn you big meany with your helpful info! Lol
Any one else carried various extremeshockusa.com rounds?
I generally think frangibles are a bad idea for self defense. You are taking a great risk of causing only a shallow, but nasty wound that doesn incapacitate if they are a determined beasty.
Stick with a name brand hollow point of decent weight that works in your gun and that should be good enough.