Best tactical shotgun, pump or semi auto?

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entropy said:
You are right. Pumps are harder to learn to operate. But while an M1014 is without a doubt a heck of an HD/SD shotgun, not every semi is going to be a good choice. Note the run of "My shotgun won't work" threads popping up, most of them are cheap Turkish semi's I wouldn't trust my life to. I'd take an 870 or Ithaca 37 over them anyday. I will say there are some semis out there I wouldn't mind having for an HD shotgun, and were I not experienced with a pump, (quite a bit in my case) I'd seriously be considering them.
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indeed. If it’s a question of “cheap pump versus cheap semi auto,“ take the pump.
 
Gotta say, my KSG has never failed, except the occasional short shuck. Then again.... I really like my Serbu Super Shorty too.
 
The one in the corner of the bedroom at the moment is a cruiser ready Mossberg 500 ATP. I have also used a 20 GA 870 Express youth model in that role. My main concern is 4 legged predators going after my poultry or goats.
 
whatnickname said:
I go with non-buffered 2&3/4” 00...either Sellier & Bellot or Estate. These rounds throw a lousy pattern at any range but a wider pattern.
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I haven't shot any Estate but I agree that the S&B pattern opens up very quickly compared to typical hunting rounds. I assume it's because there's no shot cup type of wad in the shell, but it produces a dinner plate size pattern at a surprisingly short distance out of my guns.
 
My 870 used to be my favorite for general defensive purposes with a little in the brush hunting and it is still at the top of the list. A few months back I got the hankering for a tactical defensive semi auto. I am an old fart and just got tired of the pumping the action. I put down the cash for this Beretta 1301 tactical. No regrets.

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Mossberg 590 loaded with #4 buck. Shot my dads 1100 was impressed with the speed. Still prefer a pump.
 
For home defence the Mossberg Shockwave is hard to beat, when some is breaking into your bedroom you don't have to be on your feet to use it, and if everything goes sideways it's a great club that can be used as a shotgun too. In house stuff is going to be close up and personal. If I ever had to use it, seeing the aftermath would most likely be traumatic and hard to clean up.
 
Ditto the 870 Youth 20 gauge. It's one that my wife can shoot as well. A friend I khow used to work in the US Embassy in Honduras says that is what the Marine guards used in stock configuration.

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This guy keeps our home and hearth safe and sound. Eats anything and is super handy. Plugs a 10" plate at 50 yards with federal slugs as well. I'm curious as to whether the new Remington will continue the manufacture. The Versamax platform really helps mitigate the bark. Shoots heavy loads like a 20 ga. Big fan - buy one of you can find one.
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billtool said:
This guy keeps our home and hearth safe and sound. Eats anything and is super handy. Plugs a 10" plate at 50 yards with federal slugs as well. I'm curious as to whether the new Remington will continue the manufacture. The Versamax platform really helps mitigate the bark. Shoots heavy loads like a 20 ga. Big fan - buy one of you can find one.
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Not happening; Remington is gone.
 
Remington isn't gone. I don't know what Roundhill will do with it, but they sure didn't pay millions to bleed it dry...Ilion was already dry as a bone. They'll keep up with the 700, the 1100, the 870, and hopefully the Versamax. Maybe even the 1911. Just don't know about the Tac-13. These guys are into making money. Far from "gone".
 
No FFL, no workers, no products, no raw materials means no guns. There's a LOT of shady stuff involving Roundhill, D'Arcy and the paintball company from Canada. There's a huge thread on shotgunworld about this.
 
Yeah- I don't know about the shotgunworld thread. I'll see if I can find it and learn something. I do know how to run a business though. I also know if I buy a business and don't own union contracts, I'm not hiring any workers until I can make product. If I'm in the gun business, I can't make product unless I have a FFL or other licensing. I also imagine I can't apply for a FFL and other licensing required until I actually own a company that needs those things. Getting that license after application certainly isn't a rubber stamp. I would understand how much time that would take and have my strat plan in place to inventory raw material, WIP, and other primary working capital. I'd thread in interviewing former Remington Outdoors employees to separate the wheat from the chaff. Etc., etc.. I admit the Roundhill buy is perplexing - but ROI is what it is. Investors demand it.
 
So to get this thread back on track - this guy also is a mean SOB. My first firearm purchase and present mean trunk monkey. Pistol grip was replaced the day I bought it. Mossberg 500 with the full boat tube. Love that old school corn cob forearm. Cycles like a dream if you rack it like you want to break it. After thousands of rounds I've never short stroked it.
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I will stick with what I was issued: A Parkerized Remington 870 12 gauge sporting a 14 inch barrel topped with Trijicon rifle sights. We stopped using buckshot completely and were only issuing slugs when I retired.
 
In the past I usually had a short barrel pump along side my bed and my .44 Special revolver on my night stand. Now that I am wheel chair confined I suck with a pump. I am going back to a configuration I used years ago for slug hunting. A Remington standard weight 1100 in 20 gauge with a 22 inch barrel and a plus 3 mag extension.
PS: I bought a Remington Tac-14 in 20 gauge but that doesn't work well for me. I added an arm brace - better but still won't beat the 1100 .
PS: I will add that the reason I go with the standard weight 1100 in 20 gauge is that recoil is near nothing. I can send 8 rounds down range and on target as fast as I can pull the trigger.
 
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