Better rifle

[BrocLuno]

Nice rifle, well done. Really can't go wrong with that Winchester

Scopes, that's whole new learning curve for you. I've prolly mounted and sighted 50 scopes in as many years. For myself, family and my friends' project rifles. Easy to get too much technology. BDC reticles, big objective lenses, adjustable objectives, etc.

Hunting means it's clear and clean every time you bring the rifle to bear. To me, that means a good 4x, or maybe a 6x max. No need for a variable. Mount it as low to the bore as you can with good cheek weld. We don't know what size or shape head you have and that can make a difference ...

I'd prolly put a 1/4" neoprene stick-on cheek pad on there. A 1" tube in Quad-Lok mounts will not go anywhere. Mounted so it almost touches the barrel is nice, but leave room for a lens covers.

Do you hunt fog, rain, or cold that will condense on a lens? Reason I ask is because, although you'll get many scope recommendations, I'd add Bushnell Elite to your list if wet is in the offing... Their proprietary Rainguard Coating does work and it helps. The scopes are fine and hold up well.

Just one more to add to the mix

 

[Jason7271]

Thanks for the Input

 

[cdb1]

Might take a peek at a Leupold VX-6. My friend got one in 2-12x40. Says its superior to his VX-3's, and they're awesome.

They are.

 

[MrBorland]

Cooper has repulsive politics

If you're referring to Dan Cooper…1) his politics had nothing to do with the company and 2) he's long gone from Cooper Rifles. This has been well-known for quite a while, but internet "facts" about Cooper Rifles and "their politics" continue to be posted, so it's important to point this out when necessary. Please update your info.

 

[Llama Bob]

If you're referring to Dan Cooper…1) his politics had nothing to do with the company and 2) he's long gone from Cooper Rifles. This has been well-known for quite a while, but internet "facts" about Cooper Rifles and "their politics" continue to be posted, so it's important to point this out when necessary. Please update your info.

No, he's not "gone". That's the problem. They hid him, but he's still the owner and the one pulling the strings. Don't confuse "chief executive" with "owner".

Their politics are still repulsive, and I will never, ever buy one of their rifles and I will never, ever allow them to be mentioned in a positive light without bringing up the real facts.

 

[Sav .250]

Don`t close the door on others..

 

[BrocLuno]

Bit harsh for a good rifle making company ...

I guess you don't know too many split households (Rep/Dem) ...

But, what's this got to do with the OP's Winny ...

 

[Robert]

Folks, let's not derail the OP's thread. That would just be rude.

 

[cdb1]

This may sound like I'm trying to one up you BrocLuno but I'm not. For a little over two years I mounted scopes at work. Slow weeks could be five, busy weeks could be 30-40 scopes. I also have a optics mounting business and along with mounting, some people want me to sight in their rifles too. As an aside I always try to talk them into sighting in the rifle themselves using my stuff and me walking through it step by step b/c there can be a definite POI shift when you shoot a rifle that another has sighted in.

Since this is a public forum I'll bore you with a few observations. Many scopes will look good in normal light. Where the difference shows is in bright sunlight and low light. Since you are looking at Vortex and Leupold I will say that I've found Vortex to be not as good as Leupold in low light and to have a more critical eye box. I've found the Diamondback and Vipers to have more precise turret click adjustments than the VX-1, VX-2, VX-R and VX-3(i) lines, though the Leupolds are just fine for sighting in. I'm talking about if you will be twisting turrets. So speaking for myself this makes Leupold better for hunting and Vortex better for target shooting.

Larger objectives don't let you see better. It's not the amount of light transmission but the quality of light transmission that matters.

30mm tubes don't gain you anything other than the possibility of more internal adjustment.

Caliber specific scopes are nothing but a marketing gimmick.

A BDC reticle doesn't do you much good unless youve shot at all of the distances the reticle is calibrated for.

Glass trumps magnification.

I equate the 7mm-08 with the .404 Jeffery. Eminently sensible, no muss, no fuss, gets the job done.

 

[BrocLuno]

Right on

Only thing I'd add is Bushnell's Elite series Rainguard is a help in fog and mist. And some other coatings can help in low light at dawn and dusk. Your return light is tending into the red end, so coatings can be helpful, or not. Opposite of very bright mid-day target work ...

 

[cdb1]

I have a 4200 3-9x40. They are excellent scopes IMO.