BEWARE American Hunters & Shooters Association

[StephenT]

Any time an organization justifies the 2nd amendment in terms of hunting rights, you know they're anti. AHSA is definitely not a pro-gun organization. A few hints from their website:

"According to legal memoranda filed in court by the United States Justice Department, the Second Amendment allows for the passage of reasonable laws designed to keep guns out of the wrong hands."

"AHSA believes the FBI should be given reasonable access to National Instant Check System (NICS) purchase records to insure terrorists and other prohibited individuals do not have access to firearms."
Translation: the FBI to keep gun records indefinitely.

"AHSA supports requiring all transfers of firearms at gun shows to be subject to all federal, state and local laws and regulations currently applicable to federally licensed firearm dealers including the conducting of the instant background check on purchasers."
Translation: let's close that darn gun show loophole again

"AHSA supports legislative efforts to regulate .50 caliber BMG sniper rifles in the same manner as machine guns are regulated under the provisions of the National Firearms Act of 1934."
Translation: let's ban those dangerous 50 caliber sniper rifles.

In other words, AHSA is the new strategy of gun control, or gun safety as they now call it.

 

[BB62]

Wt,

"Poor" membership levels? LOL.

The NRA doesn't fully float my boat either - I prefer to also support more hardcore organizations. But the AHSA is about the real thing as much as the WonderBra is.

There is no doubt some (clueless or ignorant) gun owners will join AHSA.

If you believe in divide and conquer, that some guns are good and others are EVIL - join up. Eventually, your gun and what you can do with it will be next.


BB62

 

[WT]

5% of total gun owners is good? What about the other 95%?

A former employee ties in with a competitor to form a new competiting organization?

Classic business challenges.

Conclusion: a wide open market for somebody new to come aboard.

 

[scout26]

Because of the potential for criminal misuse, the immense “fire power” and the potential for terrorist use,

All passenger aircraft larger then a Piper Cub should be banned.

IIRC, the .50 BMG has been used in exactly 0 crimes/terrorist incidents while the passenger aircraft has been used at least 10 times that I can think of off top of my head,for either criminal activity or terrorist incidents, .


Sounds just as a dumb doesn't it.

 

[Titus]

You realize what they are trying to do. Split hunters and sport shooters off from the rest of gun owners. If they can get the support from hunters and sport shooters on things like assualt rifles, CCW, and other things, in return for leaving hunting and sport guns alone, their job is much easier.

Yeah, "Do what you want with the girl, but leave me alone!" Too bad there are so many gun owners out there that feel that way. Well, I guess with the way so many are also quick to let you know that their gun ROOLZ and yours sucks, I guess I shouldn't be surprised that some of them also figure it should be codified in the law.

 

[Stickjockey]

http://www.huntersandshooters.com/

Here is the website - for those who want to see things for themselves, read it a bit and see if you don't "smell" something strange.

>pokes nose into H&S website<

(sniff, sniff)

Yup. Somethin' fishy, all right.

 

[Bartholomew Roberts]

Duplicate threads merged.

 

[Rebar]

Gee, I wonder who they'll endorse come election time?

 

[pwolfman]

Statements like these reveal the stripes on this skunk...

AHSA is committed to supporting our nation’s law enforcement officers in their fight against easy access to guns by criminals, terrorists and others.

AHSA is a non-partisan organization that advocates and advances sensible public policies. We will never support unfettered access to all types of weapons.

One of the most widely quoted statements about guns is that a firearm kept in the home is 43 times more likely to kill a family member than an intruder. This comes from the Journal of Medicine in 1986, following a six-year review of gunshot deaths in Seattle, Washington, conducted by Dr. Arthur Kellermann and others.

Development of an ASHA comprehensive federal and state government relations program focused on reasonable laws and regulations that addresses law enforcement’s need for modern enforcement technologies required to maintain the highest level of public safety, denying criminal access to firearms and ammunition that pose the greatest danger to officer safety, while not infringing on the rights of hunters and shooters to pursue their sporting activities.

AHSA is an organization committed to supporting our nation’s law enforcement officers and first responders in their fight against easy access to guns by criminals, terrorists, and others who would abuse the right to keep and bear arms.

this last one could be any one of us with the simple swipe of the legislative pen...

 

[meathammer]

From AHSA's website: The .50 caliber BMG’s popularity lies not just with target shooters, but criminals, gangs and terrorists as well.

Nice sensationalism. Put .50 shooters in the same sentence as criminals and terrorists.

Personally, I like to drink beer, I guess that puts me right in line with hit and run drunk drivers and woman beaters.

Thanks for the warning about these jokers. Since I have a lot of friends and family who hunt (AHSA's target audience), I'll pass it along.

--meathammer

 

[BB62]

For those still unsure about the real intent of this "gun rights" group, here's more ammo - check out their origins and financial backers.

The least of their interests is in getting more than 5% of gun owners on board - instead this organization and others of the like are RKBA sounding organizations in sheep's clothing.

Like the Infinitesimal Mommies, they have no problem with lies.

I think some people need to ask themselves why such an organization has gone to such lengths to obscure reality, if not for nefarious purposes.

http://triggerfinger.org/weblog/index.jsp

http://johnrlott.tripod.com/2005/08/Democrats-set-up-fake-organizations-to.html

http://www.gunlawnews.org/history/ahso.php

etc.


BB62

 

[Carl N. Brown]

AHSA not an alternative to NRA

The huntersandshooters.com website was created and registered
25 April 2005 by DCS - Internet Advocacy Group at 600 Pennsylanvia SE,
Suite 200, Washington DC with AHSA having the same mailing address.
(Recently the website registration was transferred from DCS to AHSA to
conceal its origin.)

DCS (website: dcscongressional.com check it out) is one of those
groups that takes polls and dreams up strategies and propaganda
for the Democratic Leadership Council and dozens of Democratic
congressmen. The Democratic Leadership Council (DLC) occupies
Suite 400 at the same address.

AHSA started as a website and had no members and is not really a
real membership organization. It is ersatz, bogus, Potemkin village
propaganda product of an Orwellian Ministry of [UN]Truth, DCS/DLC.

AHSA is an alternative to Handgun Control Inc.

The leadership of AHSA (Rosenthal, Ricker, et al.) have a track record
of supporting every gun ban, gun prohibition and gun control scheme
of the Clinton administration and then some.

Rosenthal does not mention on the AHSA website that he is Co-Founder
of Stop Handgun Violence [by banning handguns] one of the Massachusetts
gun control groups.

AHSA is not an alternative to NRA: it is an alternative to IANSA.
I'm suprised Rebecca Peters is not on their staff.