Biden approved 10 gauge

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Selling my semi autos and short pumps rather than pay $200 each and lose them.:(
Seriously my short doubles have not gotten their fair share as castle defense guns. Biden is on record ,widely quoted on only gun a home owner needs is " a double barrel shotgun" and went further on, but I digress, here is my 20 inch 13" LOP 10 gauge 3.5" magnum. I did use it on a raccoon in the hen house shot from 30 yards with a safe back stop and the 18 pellets of 00 knocked him over and he kicked with 9 or so hits along his side.

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Yeah I know there is a box marked 12 ga pictured. It has 4 10 gauge 2 7/8" Old Remington #6 shot shells in it. I keep this gun for yard critters when a .22 won't do. I have it out getting ready to drill three #8 48 screw holes in bottom rib to attach a small light
 
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I have a safe, secured in bedroom place for it. I keep it loaded with Federal Magnum 00 buck plated pellets. Have plenty of rifles slugs available too, just in case.:) The gun has a bead gets them in a 9 " or less group at 50 yards centers from shoulder
 
I only keep a hammerless double loaded if I can have it safely locked in steel with muzzle down in my 100 year old home in Calif. I do have a loaded and locked as per law Russian 12 gauge hammer Lupara in my man cave there. I have practice with keeping Calif happy since I retired to Oregon in 2017 , so any new regulations = no changes there :) .. I also have the rare 10 ga Pedersoli Muzzle Loading 14" gun also in California . I don't keep it loaded tho.
 
My camp guns are an old Stoeger 12G Coach gun with a bad Duracoat job, and a 686+. I love that double gun more than I should. I guess I wouldn't want to stand in front of it. It'll also pot grouse for me when I'm in the mood.
 
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I thought you were supposed to shoot through the door. Shotgun Joe knows best.
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I’ve only heard the warning shots in the air one.

And of course the “when an unarmed person with a knife comes at you, instead of shooting them in the heart, shoot em in the leg.”

A 10 gauge should work for any of his famous quotes except for when an ar14 is needed. :D
 
I see some of you understand ,I probably will get scolded tho :) , even tho I am serious about every true word spoken. Actually the short 10 Ga. which a skillfull smith poured molten hard lead down the opening in front of the ribs when sawed off to 20" from 32" chromed extra full chokes makes the thing balance beautifully. The cavernous bores would inspire fear to a perp in the house that is for sure, compliance with out cleaning up messes is where it's at in self defense.
 
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Double shotgun barrels are typically soldered to top and bottom ribs with a gap between, only closed at the muzzle. Saw the barrels off and expose the space between the ribs and barrels. I have seen them plugged with lead, solder, and epoxy. Or not at all if you don't care.
I wouldn't have thought the space would hold enough lead to affect the balance, but Gordon has the gun.
 
Probably 4 .oz of molten lead was poured down the gap between barrels. The gun weighs 10 1/2 pounds, no lightweight ! The barrels are very thick , look at the massively thick breech end. It is a Zabala , not the lowest grade either, beautifully case hardened receiver and under metal ect.. The wood fit is excellent and no cracks yet. I bought the gun in early 80 s when lead shot was still ok in the 32" full and full chokes. After steel shot was mandated for waterfowl it was put in safe and I bought a Browning 10 gauge that was set up for steel. I have a MEC 10 ga reloader set up still in Calif . In the 90 s I had a gunsmith cut the barrels down and drill and tap for a large bead sight. I wanted 18" but he gave me 20", because he said it looked more authentic western, he knew I wanted to use it for CAS locally. I ended up with an 1897 pump for that and today use an old 20 gauge Ithaca double for Cowboy.
The gun does rock you back with the 3.5" slugs and buck. But it doesn't beat you like a seven and a half 12 gauge pump with same.
Something about the almost 20 mm muzzles that makes me smile and want to say " Malarkey"
 
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PapaG said:
Is that an old AYA Matador?
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I remembered it as an AYA Matador , but it actually is a Zabala , made in Spain . I think it was sold as a "Mercury Magnum " by importers.
or go full Cornpop and pull both triggers !
 
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Contemporaries of each other. I had a Matador. Zabala had stronger wrist in the stock. Most old Matadors are cracked there. Cool guns. Hell on ducks and geese way out there.
 
10ga, 3 1/2” shells, I’d be thinking of Newton’s Laws every time I fired it. lol

Nice looking gun though.
 
Gordon said:
Selling my semi autos and short pumps rather than pay $200 each and lose them.:(
Seriously my short doubles have not gotten their fair share as castle defense guns. Biden is on record ,widely quoted on only gun a home owner needs is " a double barrel shotgun" and went further on, but I digress, here is my 20 inch 13" LOP 10 gauge 3.5" magnum. I did use it on a raccoon in the hen house shot from 30 yards with a safe back stop and the 18 pellets of 00 knocked him over and he kicked with 9 or so hits along his side.

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Yeah I know there is a box marked 12 ga pictured. It has 4 10 gauge 2 7/8" Old Remington #6 shot shells in it. I keep this gun for yard critters when a .22 won't do. I have it out getting ready to drill three #8 48 screw holes in bottom rib to attach a small light
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Only knocked it over? I'm surprised that it didn't turn into hamburger!
 
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I only keep a hammerless double loaded if I can have it safely locked in steel with muzzle down in my 100 year old home in Calif. I do have a loaded and locked as per law Russian 12 gauge hammer Lupara in my man cave there. I have practice with keeping Calif happy since I retired to Oregon in 2017 , so any new regulations = no changes there :) .. I also have the rare 10 ga Pedersoli Muzzle Loading 14" gun also in California . I don't keep it loaded tho.
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Is the Russian hammered gun a Baikal? I have one of those, love it! Mine is the true hammer gun. Not that "cocking" version for internal hammers. Never could figure the marketing plan for that.
 
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Is the Russian hammered gun a Baikal? I have one of those, love it! Mine is the true hammer gun. Not that "cocking" version for internal hammers. Never could figure the marketing plan for that.
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Yes it is ! I brought it down from a Canadian trip as they were not imported in 1978 when I got mine at the height of the cold war ! I'll get a picture up it deserves it ! It is 20" barrel from factory with imp. cylinder light modified chokes in it's chrome lined barrels ! It is a tank and still in great shape and I dragged it all over many years and shot quite a bit. I hunted with it early on too and with #7 1/5 shot a great quail gun. The hammers are fairly heavy to cock, still, but triggers are light and crisp. Way back when I fired that one both barrels a couple times, for fun of course. I modified the stock in early 80s a bit and put on a thick recoil pad. I won't be selling that Lupara, ever. It is only SG I feel safe having loaded and not locked up. The hammers are too hard for a child who won't know better to cock. I keep it in the man cave as my primary go to weapon if snuck up on. I also had a couple Stevens 311 variants with short barrels. One was a late "tactical squad 3" NYPD 18" type" which was very plain, a relative got that one because I had my 10 ga. . The other was a very cute 20 Ga.3" 311 with a bajou art stock carved and shortened that a son has and grand kids are just beginning to be instructed in for hunting. I have half a dozen other regular length barell SxS guns in all common gauges except 28 for hunting ect. I use O/U for clay sports.
 
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Oh wow! You have an English stock version. Mine has more of the pistol grip curve. I too had my stock trimmed and put on a Limbsaver. Way smoother to shoot than with that steel butt plate! Got mine in the early 2000s. At that time it came with changeable chokes and rebounding hammers. At that time I think it was considered one of their more premium coach guns. It has a nicer stock and a lot of engraving. Back then the box locks were cheaper and plainer. One day I'm going to disconnect the auto safety and just keep it manual. The auto safety is somewhat redundant on an external hammer gun. Would like to find a longer barrel to change out on occasion.
 
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