Biggest Problem that gun-owners have today?

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What do you think is the Biggest Problem that gun-owners have today?

Restrictive gun laws?
Quality of guns going down?
Ammuntion costs?
Decrease in hunters?


Personally I think it is the rise of uneducated shooters. As the thread about “Dumbest thing heard in a gunship”, has illustrated uneducated shooters is a big problem. I have heard similar things countless times while at a gunshop or range. These people need proper instruction in firearm safety and handling.
 
I'm sure there will be plenty of responses about the apathy of gunowners, the socailist agenda of politicians, restrictive gun laws, etc. However, I think the No. 1 problem we face is a lack of the SCOTUS to give a definitive ruling on a clear 2nd Amendment case. That lack of guidance gives the politicians the wiggle room they need to pass onerous laws and indoctrinate the public.
 
Problem that gun owners have, or the second amendment has?

I'd say the biggest problem gun owners have is the stigma that is the ridiculous cost of firearms. They're a great tool, I think everyone who's not a felon or mentally defective or under a restraining order should have one. But for chrissakes, does a 1911 really have to cost $600? How about a FiveseveN for $1100? $1200 for a varmint-grade AR?

Its especially hard for college students. On average, I would say a college girl has vastly more need for a firearm than a 50-year-old man, because she's a much more likely target for any number of offenses. But she'll be the last person to buy one because a quality firearm can cost more than two month's rent without even blinking.
 
I think the biggest problem is ignorance by people who allow others to indoctrinate them regarding things that they know nothing about.


Unfortunately, stupidity is not against the law.
 
Though high costs is a problem, its not a major problem. I think its apathy, a reliance on the government to take care of the people, and a government that tries to control the people.
 
In the area of losing gun-related freedoms, the biggest problem we have is ~ 70 million gun owners who take their freedom for granted and don't vote accordingly.
 
Biggest Problem that gun-owners have today

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athlon64 said:
In the area of losing gun-related freedoms, the biggest problem we have is ~ 70 million gun owners who take their freedom for granted and don't vote accordingly.

I'd argue it's more the other 200 million, who take their freedom for granted and don't excercise it accordingly.

Can't conquer a country with a rifle behind every blade of grass-- from the inside or the outside.
 
I'll go with "Restrictive gun laws" for $2000 Alex:banghead: . I have a friend who was trying to sell a .38 revolver with 4" barrell, 6-shot cylinder & blued. It was one of those police issue ones. Well anyway, he didn't know that you can't just sell a handgun to another individual without going to a FFL. I stopped him before he did it but that just goes to show that there are too many gun laws. I don't know what the sentence is for that but my friend has a family that relies on him so any sentence would be bad:( .

Another law that gets on my nerves is the whole "gun free zones" junk. I like to go to the library. I like to go to a steakhouse for dinner. Both of which are places you can't CCW. But what if you forgot:uhoh: ?

When I first got into guns, all the laws involved almost made me give up guns & stick with video games:( . Instead, I studied up & now know the gun laws for NC. Nothing worth doing is easy.:)
 
I think it is the stigma placed on gun owners by those who have no idea what it is all about. Since gun owners know how precious their 2nd Amendment freedom is, they hesitate to make a stand and draw attention for fear of having it put under another microscope. As a result we have gun-free zones that are nothing more than a license for the bad guy. A gun owner doesn't know whether to go armed or not because his day may take him into one of the gun-free zones and he doesn't want to violate the law. It is easier to stay quiet.
 
The #1 problem is the belief by the vast majority of people - gun owners and non-gun owners alike - that rights arise from constitutions and laws.

These same people believe that rights can be taken away by constitutions and laws.

The people do not believe that they have any rights inherent in themselves.

If you fixed THAT, you would fix a lot of other things.

Nio
 
I fear the liablilty. I use my gun in lawful defense and I face a civil trial. Someone breaks in my home and steals my guns (even though they are locked up).
 
I'd go along with the idea that until the Supreme Court makes a ruling that the 2nd Ammendment applies to each and every citizen there will always be a risk for gun owners. There is also a trend for the states to take ownership of their gun laws, which is both good an bad. It's good if you live in a pro-gun state and it's bad if you don't. Unfortunately, if the US constitution is construed as limited only to militia, then that leaves the states open to passing their own individual laws regarding private ownership. The real threat is for this determination of rights to be left out of the state constitution so it can be interpreted by county and city statutes.

Thank God I live in the Florida where it specifically states gun ownership is the right of the people and cannot be changed by any lower government.
 
Biggest Problem that gun-owners have today?
Elitist gun owners who have no concept of inalienable rights.

As an example, roughly 33% of THR members believe felons [who are not in prison] should not be allowed to exercise their right to keep and bear arms. This belief is a debilitating disease within the gun community.
 
I'll go with "Restrictive gun laws" for $2000 Alex . I have a friend who was trying to sell a .38 revolver with 4" barrell, 6-shot cylinder & blued. It was one of those police issue ones. Well anyway, he didn't know that you can't just sell a handgun to another individual without going to a FFL. I stopped him before he did it but that just goes to show that there are too many gun laws.
Actually, in NC, the buyer is required to obtain a pistol purchase permit from the local sheriff's office, which involves a background check, and if the buyer does so (and is an NC resident) or holds a valid NC CCW license, the private sale is OK. Doesn't have to go through an FFL unless the buyer is a resident of another state.

http://www.jus.state.nc.us/NCJA/ncfirearmslaws.pdf

The NC gun law that burns me the most is the one that says a NC CHL licensee can't carry a centerfire handgun in any NC national forest because you might be tempted to poach a deer with it, so you can legally carry only a .22 if you take your family out stargazing or whatever. Never mind the fact that I have no interest in hunting deer whatsoever, deer are so common around here anyway that car-deer collisions are alarmingly common, and a 3" barreled 9mm pistol is the last gun I'd want to hunt a deer with...
 
my biggest problem is lack of time to go to the range :banghead:


but from that list I'd pick: Restrictive gun laws.
 
Guns are cheep!

Our forefathers paid one years pay for a gun. In the fifties, rifles were so expensive, men would sporterize military. My 1972 Remington 700 was $125. My new .270 (not M700) was $329. Cost of other living way over 4x since then. See gas, houses.

I think the "all guns are bad" teaching is coming home to roost.
 
I'd argue it's more the other 200 million, who take their freedom for granted and don't excercise it accordingly.

I disagree - out of 90 million gun owners only 4 million can agree enough with each other to join the NRA! There are discussions where some of our "bretheren" would actually take away rights some have now, like carrying in bars. It's lunacy - you look at the good the NRA has done with the membership they've had and you realize if if they had 50 million members that we could dictate what happens instead of whining about laws we don't like.
 
I'd also say uninformed owners and apathetic citizens.

They dont care about gun restrictions... until some left wing nut uses the same logic behind gun control to dictate what kind of cars people can own or schools they can send their kids to.
Then you'll finally see the fury unleashed, when its too late to do much about anything.
 
I will agree with Maxwell. There are just too many people who care little about the 2nd Ad. Many already have a negative view on the subject, and are willing to go along with the anti's.
 
Hawk brought this up some time ago over at Internet Infidels:

Somewhere over the past few decades, gun owners became ignorant trigger-happy redneck maniacs with no cultural sophistication, and as such need to be eliminated for the good of society.
 
Nio said:
The #1 problem is the belief by the vast majority of people - gun owners and non-gun owners alike - that rights arise from constitutions and laws.

If they understood the truth-- that rights derive from the use of armed force-- they would know better than to disarm free citizens in the name of "safety".

Problem is, most people think rights derive from laws, and the rest think that rights are bestowed by God, so almost noone recognizes that their rights are wholly and solely dependent upon their ability to exercise and defend them.

Stiletto Null said:
Somewhere over the past few decades, gun owners became ignorant trigger-happy redneck maniacs with no cultural sophistication, and as such need to be eliminated for the good of society.

Reckon that's on account of, four decades ago, most people in the Universities-- the centers of culture and learning-- were hiding there because of their fear of being forced to carry a weapon. Screwed our whole damn culture up, top to bottom.

Valkman said:
I disagree - out of 90 million gun owners only 4 million can agree enough with each other to join the NRA!

The NRA isn't defending our rights; they're nothing more than a bunch of GOP shills. Just look at how much they support enforcing the 1934 and 1968 gun bans-- direct and blatant violations of our civil, Constitutional, and basic human rights.

They're arguing to defend the rights of sportsmen-- which not even the most ignorant liberals are attacking-- in order to energize the rural conservative base.

If you want groups that support our right to defend ourselves and our homes, look at the GOA, JPFO, or even the Pink Pistols.

Molon Labe said:
As an example, roughly 33% of THR members believe felons [who are not in prison] should not be allowed to exercise their right to keep and bear arms. This belief is a debilitating disease within the gun community.

Ain't no different than them as believe that voting is a privilege that can be denied to people for committing "felonies". Probably the most effective tool possible for marginalizing and disenfranchising folk whose political views are a danger to your power.
 
A lack of people being raised in such a way that highlights personal responsibility AND a love of activities/hobbies that are dirty or outdoors.
 
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