Biggest "surprise" at your CCW class

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^^ Damn, sometimes I think canadian gun owners would be wayyy safer carrying concealed than the average joe in the U.S. From what I read here and there, just a few of you actually know how to shoot your carry piece, and actually shoot it regularly.
But there's a big bunch of losers who don't even know what model their gun is, that's pretty scary.
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I know everything that I need to know, just from reading this post from you. Its obvious that you live by the same mentality as the Europeans and several canadians that I have met. You are infinitely smarter than all of us "loser" Americans. You know way more, and are way more intelligent. Did I miss anything?

To tell you the truth, most of us "loser" Americans couldnt care less, wanna know why? We live in the greatest country in the world. With all of the problems we have we are way better off than any of the "subjects" that live in nanny states, like Canada, UK, France, etc.

To make sure you never have to deal with any of us American Losers, please, by all means, stay in Canada, where the people are much smarter than us. Obviously much safer too, because a registered handgun cant shoot anyone, right?
 
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^^ Damn, sometimes I think canadian gun owners would be wayyy safer carrying concealed than the average joe in the U.S. From what I read here and there, just a few of you actually know how to shoot your carry piece, and actually shoot it regularly.
But there's a big bunch of losers who don't even know what model their gun is, that's pretty scary.
I know everything that I need to know, just from reading this post from you. Its obvious that you live by the same mentality as the Europeans and several canadians that I have met. You are infinitely smarter than all of us "loser" Americans. You know way more, and are way more intelligent. Did I miss anything?

To tell you the truth, most of us "loser" Americans couldnt care less, wanna know why? We live in the greatest country in the world. With all of the problems we have we are way better off than any of the "subjects" that live in nanny states, like Canada, UK, France, etc.

To make sure you never have to deal with any of us American Losers, please, by all means, stay in Canada, where the people are much smarter than us. Obviously much safer too, because a registered handgun cant shoot anyone, right?
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Somehow even with strict regulation of handguns in Canada, violent crimes with guns involved is on the rise with youth in Canada. How could that happen if you have to obtain permits and undergo rigid training to possess a handgun in Canada? I guess they face the same problem we have here, the criminal element refuses to follow the laws?

The liberals in Canada want to ban handguns, you got to remember though that conservatives in Canada hold the same politics as left-wing radicals here in the US. Matter of fact, the day Obama was sworn in, I was sitting in Mississauga, ON waiting for a load, watching one of their "talking heads" political TV shows, and their opinion was that Obama was a conservative.

I never cross the border that I don't get the usual question from Canadian Customs about whether I have a gun in the truck or not. Hell, they've just recently armed some of their Customs agents, but not all of them from what I'm told.
 
The liberals in Canada want to ban handguns, you got to remember though that conservatives in Canada hold the same politics as left-wing radicals here in the US. Matter of fact, the day Obama was sworn in, I was sitting in Mississauga, ON waiting for a load, watching one of their "talking heads" political TV shows, and their opinion was that Obama was a conservative.
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Wow. Thats crazy, Obama the conservative. I dont judge all people by what the mainstream media of their country will portray, because look at our country. Although, these posts have all confirmed all of my personal experiences with a lot of our neighbors to the north.

I still wish them all the best though, and hope that they will get more relaxed gun laws one day too.
 
What scares me is the attitude that since such stringent requirements are in place for them to even own a gun, that they are so superior to American gun owners, even concealed carry permit holders.

I don't know the emphasis on training by all CCW instructors, but mine stressed further, and frequent training after the minimum standards required by their state for a CCW permit. They freely admitted that the course was simply an introduction, and familiarization session, hardly sufficient for anyone to have the knowledge base necessary to carry a firearm for self defense.

And unlike the description of gun owners in Canada that have been posted here, the majority of gun owners I've met up there refuse to register their guns, whatever type they own. They tell the joke asking why do Canadians water their lawns with WD-40? To keep their guns from rusting!
 
Thats crazy, Obama the conservative.
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From Artiz: (we need to have a transportation permit to go to the range)

That's why I'll spend my vacation dollars in Alaska, Wyoming, Florida, or right here in Colorado. :neener:
 
From mcdonl: The biggest surprise at my class was the number of people who would open fire on an intruder in their house upon sight.
The scenario was... you wake up from a noise... Find a man, holding something in his hand, running through your living room... what do you do?
A lot of people would have just shot.

There's a huge element of tough guy/gal talk in that. Yapping about dropping the hammer on someone is a far cry from actually doing it.
 
A right is something that you can engage in where no compensation for the action is required, for example, it costs you not a cent to voice your opinion, etc. In order to drive a motor vehicle you have to follow the various regulations put in place by state or local authorities. You have to have an operators license, vehicle license, insurance, even pay a tax placed on fuel for the vehicle. They didn't license horses and buggies when the constitution was ratified did they?
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You've never heard of poll taxes and voter literacy tests?
 
When I took my class 9 years ago in Arkansas I had to sign an oath that I would not bear arms aganist the State, Governor or any entity of the state.
 
"That the number of grains on the label of a box of handgun ammo (ie, 230 grain .45 acp) was the weight of the powder charge and an indicator of how powerful the round was.

She made several other factual errors. Obviously not impressed with the quality of this particular NRA-certified instructor."

where is the emphasis on she? Should he have called her an "It" since she was a female instructor? I'm confused.

No surprises in my class at all. I could have just used my DD214, but decided to take a class to better myself before I carried.
 
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A right is something that you can engage in where no compensation for the action is required, for example, it costs you not a cent to voice your opinion, etc. In order to drive a motor vehicle you have to follow the various regulations put in place by state or local authorities. You have to have an operators license, vehicle license, insurance, even pay a tax placed on fuel for the vehicle. They didn't license horses and buggies when the constitution was ratified did they?
You've never heard of poll taxes and voter literacy tests?
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You're citing things found to be illegal and unconstitutional to bolster your argument? If you studied history any at all, you'd know they didn't allow people to vote who didn't own property at one time in our history as well, that isn't allowed either today. We also "used" to count slaves as 3/5ths of a person for population numbers to allow states that slavery was common a fair chance at representation in Congress as well, do we count Blacks at that ratio today? No.

Ask any cop if driving is a right or a privilege. Ask any judge the same question, they'll say it's a privilege allowed the citizens by the state if you follow all the rules. They can remove your license to operate a vehicle for too many violations of traffic regulations. The only way they can rescind your gun rights is if you are convicted of a felony, or are deemed a danger to society, either by insanity or lack of mental capacity. Even physical disabilities have been found to be not an issue for firearm usage or ownership, with proper assistance for the shooter. A New Jersey resident, who is wheel chair bound, and paralyzed from the neck down has fought in court and received a buyer permit to purchase a rifle for hunting purposes, providing he has assistance in shooting, as he had been a hunter prior to becoming a quad, and wanted to hunt again. His guns have to be equipped with a device that allow him to pull the trigger via blowing through a tube.
 
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That's why I'll spend my vacation dollars in Alaska, Wyoming, Florida, or right here in Colorado.
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Somehow this doesn't bother me... at all.

I hope you read all the post and understood that a transportation permit is needed for handguns only? That permit lasts 5 years. In Qc it's 1 year.
 
Biggest surprise was the qualifying requirement. Don't shoot yourself, anyone else or drop your gun on the ground and you will pass.

Fun class, offered by a private individual who had a home made class room and range in the back of his machine shop. The other big surprise was when it started getting a little smoky he plugged in the extension cord that ran to a different extension cord that ran to a small box fan that vented fumes / lead. I was ready to get out of there.
 
Wow, some moderator just deleted my whole post, I guess he got all butt hurt by the logic in it. Wouldn't be the first time some canadian's post get deleted because it got frightening truth.

Oleg needs to sort this **** out, quick.
 
Ask any cop if driving is a right or a privilege. Ask any judge the same question, they'll say it's a privilege allowed the citizens by the state if you follow all the rules.
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It's not a cop's position to determine what is and isn't a right.

"The right of the citizen to travel upon the public highways and to transport his property thereon, either by carriage or by automobile, is not a mere privilege which a city may prohibit or permit at will, but a common right which he has under the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness."- Thompson v Smith 154 SE 579.

"The use of the highway for the purpose of
travel and transportation is not a mere privilege, but
a common fundamental right of which the public and
individuals cannot rightfully be deprived." Chicago
Motor Coach v. Chicago, 169 NE 221.


Like I said before, research the issue. It is NOT black and white like you and many others think it is.
 
I grew up in Canada and my first gun, at 12, was a Russian made 22 single shot target rifle. I vividly remember getting on the city bus once a week with the rifle in a red, soft-sided case, to go to the range.

Times have changed, I gather. :eek:

Wish I still had the rifle but the cold war was still hot when I moved to the US and I couldn't import it. Got a bunch of trophies with that rifle.
 
Wow, some moderator just deleted my whole post, I guess he got all butt hurt by the logic in it. Wouldn't be the first time some canadian's post get deleted because it got frightening truth.

Oleg needs to sort this **** out, quick.
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Your stuff has been deleted because you are not following the TOS. Apparently, even in your enlightened state of existense you are not able to follow the rules on this message board. Oleg would have deleted text calling people losers, or using the phrase butt hurt to describe a moderator. Whats your point on here anyway? So far you have proven that Canada has some crazy gun control laws, and that you need a permit to do anything, yet this somehow would make canadians safer than Americans to conceal carry. When someone disagreed with you, you called names and made nasty accusations. Its obvious you come here with a chip on your shoulder. The RKBA means nothing to you, because you already lost it.
 
^^ What is YOUR point? You're trying to teach me something without reading the entire thread. Get over it kid. Read the story, understand what has been said, and accept it.
Sounds like you're my right neighbour, are you? How could you know me so well if you aren't? What other kind of stuff can you say about me, you sound sooo sure about what you're telling on here about me, you must be my brother or something.

Damn kids. Don't tell me I'm making nasty accusations, you don't even know how to read your own posts.

I'm out of this thread, you should be too. Don't bother to PM me, I'm just going to post your crap here.
 
^^ What is YOUR point? You're trying to teach me something without reading the entire thread. Get over it kid. Read the story, understand what has been said, and accept it.
Sounds like you're my right neighbour, are you? How could you know me so well if you aren't? What other kind of stuff can you say about me, you sound sooo sure about what you're telling on here about me, you must be my brother or something.

Damn kids. Don't tell me I'm making nasty accusations, you don't even know how to read your own posts.

I'm out of this thread, you should be too. Don't bother to PM me, I'm just going to post your crap here.
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#1 calling people "kid" only accomplishes one thing, proving to everyone that you are not mature.

#2 I have NEVER PM'd you. Why would you even post that.

#3 You have again called names, and violated the TOS. I am sure I have done it from time to time, and have gotten infactions before, but what you are posting right now is beyond that. I'm sure you wont be here much longer anyway.

All that aside, I am sure the reason it sounds like I know so much about you is because you are easy to read. All of your posts are inflamatory, and add nothing to any discussion you are a part of.
 
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