black bullet experiences
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Mike Kerr
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RNF means Round Nose Flat point. It is a rounded nose but the actual point is flat, somewhat like a semi wad cutter.
I have used Precision Bullets for years. It has a propritary (sp) coating David Long uses. Virtually as clean as jacketed but not as costly. Precision Bullet's web site will give you good information on the characteristics of the coating and how much heat it can take without melting down. Net result is little or no lead burn or lead gases. Very clean compared to lead and you don't have copper build up in your barrel like jacketed. It does require occasional barrel cleaning every 3k to 5k rounds to remove the molly build up.
I use 1 oz of vinegar with 1 oz of hydrogen peroxide. Pour it in the barrel, plug breach and muzzle ends with little foam ear plugs or any soft stopper you have handy. Let it sit for a minute while shaking the barrel. Pour out the solution and pull a soft rag tight thru the bore. Two applications of the peroxide/vinegar will get you 90% clean. The third application should get the rest of it. Beats cleaning lead or copper every 200 rounds.
Of course if you are going to shoot Bullseye you will probably clean up about 10 times as often
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I have used Precision Bullets for years. It has a propritary (sp) coating David Long uses. Virtually as clean as jacketed but not as costly. Precision Bullet's web site will give you good information on the characteristics of the coating and how much heat it can take without melting down. Net result is little or no lead burn or lead gases. Very clean compared to lead and you don't have copper build up in your barrel like jacketed. It does require occasional barrel cleaning every 3k to 5k rounds to remove the molly build up.
I use 1 oz of vinegar with 1 oz of hydrogen peroxide. Pour it in the barrel, plug breach and muzzle ends with little foam ear plugs or any soft stopper you have handy. Let it sit for a minute while shaking the barrel. Pour out the solution and pull a soft rag tight thru the bore. Two applications of the peroxide/vinegar will get you 90% clean. The third application should get the rest of it. Beats cleaning lead or copper every 200 rounds.
Of course if you are going to shoot Bullseye you will probably clean up about 10 times as often
Regards,
trickyasafox
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Deavis
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Just a few things that I noticed when I bought a box to try out.
1) The bullets are very soft, deform, and shave farily easily
2) Shooting them was absolutely no cleaner than a jacketed round
3) They look like the coating is painted on by a little kid with ADD
4) Bullet to bullet variance was slightly higher than jacketed (factory and MGB) bullets
5) Groupings were ~.5-1" larger than jacketed (factory HPs) in my tests
I, personally, wouldn't use them again because jacketed bullets are not that much more, I clean my guns regularly, and I have to pay sales tax since I'm in Texas. I guess if you shoot lead they are an improvement but I couldn't justify using them for myself. Just some input from me.
link: http://precisionbullets.com/
1) The bullets are very soft, deform, and shave farily easily
2) Shooting them was absolutely no cleaner than a jacketed round
3) They look like the coating is painted on by a little kid with ADD
4) Bullet to bullet variance was slightly higher than jacketed (factory and MGB) bullets
5) Groupings were ~.5-1" larger than jacketed (factory HPs) in my tests
I, personally, wouldn't use them again because jacketed bullets are not that much more, I clean my guns regularly, and I have to pay sales tax since I'm in Texas. I guess if you shoot lead they are an improvement but I couldn't justify using them for myself. Just some input from me.
link: http://precisionbullets.com/
You might try
THESE "black bullets:" http://www.pathfindersports.com/p/pathfindersports/default.asp?S=500&A=F&SearchText=&CategoryID=525
I use the nominal 205 gr RNFPs, which are really 210 gr for reasons Bear Creek failed to make me understand. I can understand 205 over 200 because they don't need the deep groove for wax lubricant - the bullets are VERY slick; so much so they can be hard to pick up for loading. Why they claim their bullets are 205 gr and actually weigh 210 gr eludes me.
The coating is almost black and feels like a slick plastic. It can be shaved if you're clumsy or failed to bell your brass sufficiently (i.e., MORE than for jacketed bullets). I like the profile and the price. These work in my autoloaders AND my revolvers (moon clips and SWCs do not mix well) and I feel the flat point gives good purchase on bowling pins or plates shot from an angle.
Just a suggestion.
THESE "black bullets:" http://www.pathfindersports.com/p/pathfindersports/default.asp?S=500&A=F&SearchText=&CategoryID=525
I use the nominal 205 gr RNFPs, which are really 210 gr for reasons Bear Creek failed to make me understand. I can understand 205 over 200 because they don't need the deep groove for wax lubricant - the bullets are VERY slick; so much so they can be hard to pick up for loading. Why they claim their bullets are 205 gr and actually weigh 210 gr eludes me.
The coating is almost black and feels like a slick plastic. It can be shaved if you're clumsy or failed to bell your brass sufficiently (i.e., MORE than for jacketed bullets). I like the profile and the price. These work in my autoloaders AND my revolvers (moon clips and SWCs do not mix well) and I feel the flat point gives good purchase on bowling pins or plates shot from an angle.
Just a suggestion.
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