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Black man with a gun - re: Laurel shooting

Discussion in 'General Gun Discussions' started by MikeK, Sep 7, 2003.

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  1. MikeK

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    Go Ken!

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A36723-2003Sep6.html


    washingtonpost.com
    Md. Man Wants A .357 Magnum In Every Hand


    By Courtland Milloy

    Sunday, September 7, 2003; Page C01


    Kenneth V. Blanchard is a firearms instructor and home safety expert who caters to a mostly African American clientele. He lives in Prince George's County and believes that he has a solution to the area's crime problems.

    His Web site, www.BlackManWithAGun.com, shows him posing in front of a U.S. flag with the solution in his hands: a gun -- in this case, an H&K 9mm submachine gun.

    "We can't make our neighborhoods safer with our heads in the sand and waiting for the 'Man' to protect us," Blanchard writes in a manifesto reminiscent of the old Black Panther Party. "I don't agree with the NAACP on gun control. We can't get different outcomes doing the same old things."

    Last week, a tow truck driver named Glenn R. Ellis tried Blanchard's way. About 2 a.m. Wednesday, Ellis became a black man with a gun on a mission to stop the theft of his SUV. According to Prince George's police, the 37-year-old Laurel resident opened fire on four males -- two of whom were already in his SUV -- and hit the two who had not yet climbed in. One of them, a 15-year-old, was killed.

    If you think Blanchard might be rethinking his gun-toting solution, think again. In the aftermath of what many are calling a tragedy for all involved, Blanchard is more convinced than ever that Ellis had the right idea.

    "When a car thief gets shot and killed by a car owner, it sends a message," Blanchard said. "It slows down a lot of those people who've been conditioned to think that they can get away with anything."

    Asked how he felt about the boy who was killed, he replied: "It's unfortunate, but why should criminals always get the sympathy? Frankly, I believe that what happened in Prince George's needs to happen a little bit more."

    Blanchard, 41, was born in rural Virginia and moved to Prince George's when he was a child. An ex-Marine and former federal law enforcement officer, he started his mix of gun training, home safety analysis and campaigning against gun control in 1992 -- the height of the homicide and crack cocaine epidemics in the Washington area.

    "There is no reason why we should be victims," Blanchard said. "When criminals learn that they have a chance of getting hurt before the cops come, a lot of this preying on the black community will stop."

    Blanchard's views on guns apparently aren't shared by most African Americans. A recent poll by the National Opinion Research Center found that although fewer than half of whites favor government control of handguns, nearly 60 percent of blacks do.

    Nevertheless, roughly 30 percent of both blacks and whites own guns, the survey found. Asked why they owned a gun, nearly half of whites said for hunting -- while nearly half of blacks said self-defense.

    As Blanchard sees it, because of growing concern among blacks for their safety, the percentage is bound to increase.

    "Lately, at a party or after a speech, someone will come up to me and say, 'What kind of gun would you carry if you were in such and such situation.' Or, 'How do you handle your guns in a home with children?' " he said. "I'm seeing more and more black people at gun shows, too, not necessarily buying, but showing some serious interest."

    In recent weeks, D.C. Police Chief Charles H. Ramsey has declared a "crime emergency," while Prince George's State's Attorney Glenn Ivey has declared a crime "crisis." Homicides, sexual assaults, carjackings and burglaries -- among other crimes -- are on the rise.

    Both law enforcement declarations call for more help from residents. Prince George's Police Chief Melvin C. High recently told The Washington Post that he wanted "a full partnership" in which "residents will do all that they need to do to be safer, and we will, on our side, do the things we need to do."

    That was music to Blanchard's ears -- although it is unlikely that he and High would agree on what it means to be a partner.

    "Having more elderly people walking around in orange hats won't cut it," Blanchard said. "Give me a six-inch, .357 magnum revolver. . . . Now that would be helpful."

    E-mail: milloyc@washpost.com



    © 2003 The Washington Post Company
     
  2. 280PLUS

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    sad but true,,,

    check this though,,,

    "Nevertheless, roughly 30 percent of both blacks and whites own guns, the survey found. Asked why they owned a gun, nearly half of whites said for hunting -- while nearly half of blacks said self-defense."

    which ALSO means nearly half of blacks said hunting and nearly half of whites said self defense...

    so where is the point?

    no point, just cleverly written stuff to skew the bias

    :barf:
     
  3. XLMiguel

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    "Fight Crime, Shoot Back."

    Kenn is right on, and PG County is a cesspool of crime. Because of DC's and MD's gun laws (PG and DC share a common border), it's pretty much a safe work environment for the criminals. VA, just across the river, is more affluent (better 'shopping' for the crooks), but we don't have the same crime rates, and I think the fact that VA is 'shall issue' CWP has to play a significant role.

    A while back we were visiting sister-in-law in NM. One of her neighbors, who was an Albuquerque LEO, told a story about an outbreak of the 'Blue Flu' during labor negotiations between the city and police. While the police were 'out', many locals organized neighborhood watches (NM was an open carry state, no 'shall issue" at the time), patroling with visible heat, and the crime rate when down to almost zero. Once the labor issues were resolved and the cops were back on the job, one of her co-workers was 'chatting' with a local habitual offender. He was asked why not much happened during the strike. His reply was along the lines of 'when you get caught by the cops, all you get is arrested. Them citizens will kill you . . . '

    FWIW
    Edit for typos.
     
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  4. Dannyboy

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    Only if you assume that those were the only two available/given answers.

    BTW, isn't Ken a member here?
     
  5. C.R.Sam

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    Recidivism reduction.

    Sam
     
  6. 4v50 Gary

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    Rehabilitation through reincarnation. Need to restore the English Common Law that permits the owner of chattel to use deadly force against a felony - including a property crime.
     
  7. joeislove

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    Ok. I give. What's the deal with orange hats? I haven't heard of this before.
     
  8. John/az

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    Orange hats: Makes it easier to locate their bodies. ;)
     
  9. TheeBadOne

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    Sounds like the cops exercise restraint, the citizens exercize their trigger fingers :neener:
     
  10. Moparmike

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    I will also support this initiative. Sounds like a great idea. Once I get an AK and a .45, where do I sign up?:D'

    If he is a member here, I say "Good job. Keep up the good work and fighting the good fight. Do it for the children...:D "
     
  11. MikeK

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    The orange hats are worn by the 'neighborhood watch' folks in some local jurisdictions - DC mainly. I think Kenn (sorry about the original misspelling) is a member here. He was on TFL.

    BTW - If you ever have a chance to hear him speak do so - he's great!
     
  12. Standing Wolf

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    Wrong. It needs to happen a lot more. Crime really ought to be made a high risk occupation.
     
  13. seeker_two

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    The reestablishment of Natural Consequences for one's actions...how enlightened...:evil:

    Go, Man, Go....:cool:
     
  14. Nightfall

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    You would think that after decades of trying this 'unarmed' approach in DC, etc. people would pick up on it's lack of results. But for some reason, what is common sense to people like Mr. Blanchard, is a simply horrific idea to the other sheeple. I suppose they're convinced that being defenseless will work, it just needs more time...

    :banghead:
     
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    I highly recommend his book. JT
     
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    My response to Mr. Milloy

    Dear Mr. Milloy,

    I am typing this while listening to my "Pistol Packing Preacher" cd by none other than Kenn Blanchard.

    I too am a black man with a gun and just wanted to drop you a line and let you know that your column on the "Black Man With A Gun" was well appreciated and in my opinion, right on time. Thank you. I subscribe to the theory that if you don't arm yourself, you harm yourself. Blacks have long been conditioned to hold firearms in abomination for fear of death. It should be the other way around and we should actually be more afraid of not having access to firearms for fear of death as the police do not have a duty to protect individuals even if they are aware of a crime being committed. They are only responisible for maintaining the safety of the general public (sure thing). I agree with Kenn when he said that we need more instances like the Glenn Ellis scenario to send a message to would-be thieves. Unfortunately, I have no sympathy for the young man who lost his life. I consider this a hazard of the job when one choses to help themselves to other peoples property in the middle of the night. I do however, pray that Mr. Ellis receives fair treatment throughout this ordeal. I'd like to shake his hand because it's high time that folks stood up and said, "enough of this crime stuff!"

    BTW MikeK - Kenn is a great speaker and a good friend of mine and I feel blessed to know him. Kenn also started a gun club dubbed the Tenth Cavalry Gun Club, Inc. with chapters in NJ Baltimore and newly reformed in DC (I am president of the DC chapter). Check out his website and buy his book and cd. He'll even autgraph them for you. It's well worth it!
     
  17. rock jock

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    I saw Kenn at CounterAttack in Dallas earlier this year. Great speaker. Very highly motivating.

    BTW, if you ever have the chance to sit down with him, ask him about some of his stories as a fed LEO. Really incredible tales. "Federal LEO" belies the real truth of his role serving our country.
     
  18. BlackManWithAGun

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    From Your Brother

    You guys make me blush!
    I hope you don't mind me saying I'm your brother. For those that don't know me, I'm kinda mushy like that-- child of the sixties that I am. I appreciate kindness and encouragement. I love my country and those that share in my belief to defend her, our families and our way of life. Thank you for encouraging this brother across the miles, and sending me an email every once in awhile.

    From where I sit, something just happened. It was quiet at first but now the noise is audible. People want to know about personal protection. The pendulum of all that has been wrong with America and its belief about firearms is about to swing back in the right direction. Like the Curtis Mayfield song, "People Get Ready"

    Thinking Americans are tired of the rhetoric, lies and promises about safety and security. With the right approach we can turn this thing around. Talk to you soon.

    Your brother,

    Kenn
     
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    Way to go, Kenn...

    Good to see you back!
     
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    Are you kidding?

    "Don't mind" ? You're very modest, Mr. Blanchard.

    Thank you for all you've done for this country and for your fellow citizens, and keep up the fine work!
     
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    Now if we can just get the momentum sustained...

    This past weekend in St. Louis, there were a bunch of folks who got their undies in a wad because the city schools had to close a bunch of schools, etc.... Sharpton was in town rousing the rabble, etc., and a boycott of the school system as declared...

    You know, it woulda been VERY edgy to dress someone up as a klucker with a sign saying "please keep your kids home from school - we like it when you're ignorant."
     
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    "The pendulum of all that has been wrong with America and its belief about firearms is about to swing back in the right direction."

    I hope you are right, Kenn.

    It would be fitting IMO, if the Minorities of the Nation, who were prohibited from carrying by the initial Racist Gun Laws, would be instrumental in bringing about that change.

    Keep up the Good Work!

    Chip :)
     
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    BTW, What's a klucker?
    Is that KKK?
     
  24. bigjoegood1

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    For all of the DC Metro area THR's out there

    Fox 5 showed Lark McCarthy interviewing Kenn this morning on the title of his website and his views on gun control, the shooting of the car thief, etc. Kenn went on to say that he doesn't promote violence but believes in accountability and responsibility and that concealed carry laws would go a long way int curtailing crimes because criminals would be more hesitant to attack a victim that could potentially defend themselves. Fox 5 even liste his site on-screen and linked to it on their website www.fox5dc.com.
     
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    And you people all think that was justifiable shooting?:what:
     
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