Blood money used to buy guns?

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MrFreeze

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Ok...I highly doubt this is headed where you think it is, but here goes:

I've been seriously eyeing a new RRA AR-15 lately and it's going to take waaaay to long to buy the dang thing...as if yesterday would have been soon enough! :neener:

I saw an ad in the university newspaper looking for plasma donors and they pay up to around $200 a month. Now I did a bit of research and found that would require me to get stuck 8 times a month and it takes up to an hour each time. Now I'm no rocket scientist, but that hourly rate could help me get my hands on that RRA a lot faster!

What do you think? :evil: Anyone done it before?

Travis
 
This one needs to get filed under that "You might be a gun nut if..." thread.

:D

Back in college when I was uber poor, I considered selling plasma a time or two for ammo money, but never got around to it.
 
Get the opinion of a phlebotomist if you can.

That seems like a lot of donation: I assume they're just taking plasma and returning cells? If so you're missing out on the de-toxifying effects (heavy metals, mostly) of whole-blood donation. However, I don't think you'd want to do that as often as you indicated.
 
Ok, I've done this for almost two years, so I'll give you the lowdown.

The requirements:
Weight more than 110 pounds. Not have any blood born diseases or blood disorders (AIDS, amenia, etc). Not have donated blood in the last two months. There are a number of behaviors that put you at risk for AIDS that will defer you. Doing drugs w/ a needle, having sex w/ a prostitute or another male, getting a blood transfusion or medical work while in Africa, and a few others. Basically, you have to be healthy. You are required to have a physical every year or if you stop donating for...3 or 6 months, I forget.
Also, you can only donate twice in seven days and the donations must have a day in between. It's usually best to find a schedule and stick to it. I do Tuesdays and Thursdays. I say "seven days" because it is seven days, not a calendar week. You can't donate Tuesday and Thursday of one week and Monday and Wednesday the next. Tuesday, Thursday, and Monday all fall in the same seven days. Just stick to a set schedule and you'll be fine.


The process:
After the initial appointment for a physical (so they can determine the above) your average day will go something like this. Show up, get weighed, and have your finger stuck w/ a needle. They take a drop of blood and run a few tests on it (make sure you're hydrated and your protein is high enough). Then you have a quick medical interview where they check your vital signs and ask you medical history questions. They ask you the same questions EVERY time. Are you healthy, have you ever taken the following prescription drugs, are you pregnant, have you engaged in the following at risk behaviors for AIDS, etc. This part usually take 15-30 minutes, depending on how busy the center is.

Once they have an open machine they call your name and get the process started. They sit you down in a nice semi-inclined couch next to the plasma machine. They'll disinfect your arm then stick an IV type needle into your arm. This is hooked up to the machine, which will draw off about a pint of blood each cycle. As the blood runs through the machine the plasma is spun off in a small centrifuge and runs down into a collection bag. After a full pint is removed the machine runs the blood back into you along with a small amount of anticoagulant to keep the needle from clotting up. So you are never missing more than a pint of blood at one time. Your body keeps function fine and IF something goes wrong you only loose a small amount of blood. This has only happened to me once and I was fine. It's a very safe procedure.

The cycle repeats roughly 10 times until the full volume of plasma has been spun off. The actual amount dependes on your body weight.
<150 pounds: 690 mL
150-190(?) pounds: 825 mL
>190(?) pounds: 890 mL
When the process is done they run a bag of saline solution into your arm so your circulatory system hasn't lost any VOLUME, just the trace proteins in the plasma. Of course you still have all your red blood cells, white blood cells, etc because those are returned at the end of each cycle.

This usually takes less than an hour. I don't think under an hour is a realistic estimate for the whole visit from start to finish, but definitely less than two all together.



The side effects:
I have experienced very few side effects. I've never had to go to a doctor or something as a result of donating plasma. They do say it can cause fatigue. I'm not sure on that score. I have been fatigued, but I go to school full time, work one (or two) jobs besides plasma, plus I'm in tae kwon do. So you can take that w/ a grain of salt. If you are battling exhaustion or sickness, plasma probably isn't the way to go. If you are generally in good health you should have no problems. There are many days where I've donated plasma, jumped on my bike, sprinted to the bus stop, worked, biked over to get my car, driven to tae kwon do, biked back to my dorm, and been fine.


The money:
Generally, you will get a slight bonus for your second donation of the week. At my place (Biolife Plasma) you get $20 the first time of the week and $30 the second, for a grand total of $50 a week. Which comes out to $200 a month.



The bottom line:
I've been very satisfied w/ donating plasma and have had no problems even after two years of donating. It's a great way to supplement your income on a flexible schedule.
I have noticed that they have to slow down the rate at which they draw out the blood because my vein walls tire slightly and can't hold up to the suction quite as well after time. That hasn't affected me otherwise physically. The only reason I know is because they have to slow the machine down, but I figured I should mention it.
 
If this qualifies me as a gun nut...I won't object :D

BTW...I'm a rather healthy, disease-free 25 yo who doesn't mind needles.

I've done a small amount of internet-based research on the company (DCI Biologicals) and read a few columns on the process. It is plasma donation, so you're returned the rest of your blood.

From what I understand, though, 8 times a month is the high end of the deal, where you top out at approximately $200. Wikipedia has some good info on plasmapheresis here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_donation

They support the claim of 2 times in 7 days, as long as you are properly hydrated.

If there's enough interest with fellow THR members, maybe I'll be the guinea pig and go for the gusto...then do a write-up!

Travis
 
Good info Phantom...I'm gonna go back and check all that out!

And now that Phantom has said that he's done it for two years...maybe I can still be the guinea pig for saving all the $$ from donation and spending it on firearms.

Say it ain't so, Phantom!

Travis
 
Oh it is so Freeze. But I've had to spend all my money on tuition :cuss: :banghead: :fire: :barf: :( :mad: so you can still be the guinea pig for actually getting to spend it on something fun.
 
I was a plasma donor for several years in South Africa (never got paid for it, though! :D ). Later, they put me onto a special-cell donor list. We were on a permanent "call-out" list for emergency surgery. When a patient came to the hospital with a need for some special platelets or blood components, they would call us up and arrange for us to come in and donate the necessary bits and pieces. Usually this would be arranged prior to scheduled surgery, but sometimes in an emergency we would be called in at 2 or 3 in the morning, and the blood components would be taken from us, rushed straight to the operating theater, and transfused on the spot. It gave me a really good feeling - one knew that one's donation was literally saving a life, right there and then.
 
A bunch of us here at college were thinking of getting together and driving to the nearest one (~80 mi). I want to say they paid $40. I was thinking two or three trips could get me my Schmidt-Rubin.

Then again, there were some that decided they wanted to find a sperm bank instead :rolleyes:
 
Jonathan said:
Get the opinion of a phlebotomist if you can.

That seems like a lot of donation: I assume they're just taking plasma and returning cells? If so you're missing out on the de-toxifying effects (heavy metals, mostly) of whole-blood donation. However, I don't think you'd want to do that as often as you indicated.
Did someone say phlebotomist?

I worked as a phlebotomist in a plasma collection facility for a couple of years. It's safe, easy and pretty straightforward. Others have already described it well here.
 
Then again, there were some that decided they wanted to find a sperm bank instead

I don't know as much about donating sperm, but I have looked into it. You get paid $150-200 per successful donation. You can donate up to 4 times a month, I believe. You have to be healthy and have a good sperm count. Ummm...they are big on healthy, young, college educated (or currently enrolled) males. Not sure how stringent the requirements are on that score.

You generally need to live in a BIG urban area to find a facility that does sperm donation. It's not as common as plasma. Also they generally require a 6-9 month minimum commitment. You can't just go in and do it.

I've financed my education a lot of different ways. For the record, I've never sold my body, but I have sold parts... :D
 
What about track marks?

do you end up looking like a heroine addict (part serious part joking) :confused:
 
do you end up looking like a heroine addict?

Not really. Looking at my arm right now (it's been a week since I've donated) there is a noticable spot but it doesn't look different from my other scars and scrapes. You will have a mark, but they put the needle in the same spot every time so you don't end up with a nest of little spots. And it's just a needle, no drugs or anything, so you don't get infections and discoloration. Not much to worry about.
 
I financed a lot of C&R firearms and the ammo to feed them via the Plasma sale route. Did it pretty regularly for a while, although it's been more than a year since I last was in. I felt no ill effects from donating twice a week, and it was extra motivation to drink water regularly and eat well. At this point, my schedule doesn't support it, but I will very likely go back once the schedule has a bit more flexibility.

I've got a small scar on each arm, so I don't look like a junkie. Sad part is, after a while of not getting stuck, you come to miss it.... :uhoh:
 
I wouldn't mind donating for the cause > "cause I need the $ to finance a nice DCM/CMP shooter, BUT :what: , I really don't like the idea of anything being put back in me :eek:
 
I really don't like the idea of anything being put back in me

The only thing being put BACK into you is your own red blood cells, white blood cells, and things that were suspended in your plasma. Which were already there in the first place... :scrutiny: The saline they give you is to replace the volume you have lost in your system and is perfectly safe. I suppose your body could deal with that loss on it own (doesn't the spleen have something to do with it?) but the saline makes it easier for your body to get things back to normal.

Nothing to be worried about.
 
Great idea...

rock jock said:
I hear the Dems are paying big bucks for human brains. Seems they are in short supply at the DNC. :D

I heard at the DNC they were paying top dollar for the brains of Republican politicians...since they had never been used.

migoi
 
I did it for quite awhile off and on when I was working construction and work was slow. I never had any problems.

One benefit is that if you live in a hot area (like Arizona <---) then during the summer when they pump your blood cells back in with the cold saline solution it feels great, cools the whole body down.
 
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