Bloomberg microstamping update

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Despite Push From Mayor, State Senate Shelves Microstamping Bill
By: NY1 News
Mayor Michael Bloomberg traveled to Albany Tuesday to unsuccessfully urge the State Senate to crack down on illegal guns.
He was joined by other mayors from New York State, Democratic candidate for state attorney general and State Senator Eric Schneiderman, Police Commissioner Ray Kelly and other members of the law enforcement community who were lobbying for microstamping technology.

The process allows guns to be traced through cartridge casings found at crime scenes even if the weapon is never located.

Opponents of the legislation say the bill would be a burden to businesses in the state, with some companies even threatening to stop selling guns in New York if the legislation is passed.

"The cost of the average gun, Ray Kelly estimates, is something like $450. So $12 is not a noticeable thing, it's not going to be a determinate as to whether anybody's going to buy a gun or not buy a gun," said Bloomberg. "And in any case, I don't know how to compare the $12 cost to the cost of lives."

"It will enable us to establish patterns between gun activity and gun sales," said Kelly. "We'll certainly strengthen prosecutions and t will deter store purchases."

Opponents also say that microstamping technology has not yet been proven to work.

The bill has passed the State Assembly but was put aside by the senate Tuesday after it failed to get enough support.

In a statement, the mayor said, "This was a defeat for our police officers, district attorneys, and the public, and a victory for criminals who use illegal guns to shoot and kill innocent people."

My apologies for the un-High Road title (which has been changed). I was caught up in a celebratory case of schadenfreude.
 
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It is astounding how zealous some people can be for a technology that hasn't proven to work, can be easily defeated even if it could be made to work, and doesn't serve any useful purpose anyway. :confused: I'm certainly glad that the bill was defeated, which means that some people in office have at least some sense left in them.
 
Another problem with the microstamping bills is they will outlaw reloading, unless you want to pay the millions the technology will cost and not reuse any brass.
 
And I very much doubt ANY criminal would be smart enough to pick up some brass out of a dumpster at a range, and leave someone else's casings at a crime scene...

I think some firearm companies need to grow a pair, and do what Mr. Barrett did... write a letter to the offending state and offer a full refund for all of said company's firearms, but refuse to sell, service, or otherwise provide support to law enforcement agencies of states that infringe on the rights of it's citizens (citizens being the bulk of sales and revenue to begin with).
 
If any of this BS gets passed I hope the gun companies just dont ship guns into the offending state and make more money by not running special batches for microstampy state. That would put an end to this rhetoric it once and for all.
 
Hooray! Microstamping ammunition would have been extremely impractical, and quite easy to get around.
 
Hooray! Microstamping ammunition would have been extremely impractical, and quite easy to get around.

Oh,

I though they were refering to microstamping the firing pin. There was a thread on that a little bit back.
 
They were referring to the firing pin, easy to get around by using a revolver or the aforementioned loose range brass
 
They were referring to the firing pin, easy to get around by using a revolver or the aforementioned loose range brass
...or by grinding the tip of the firing pin for about two seconds with a file... or by shooting a few hundred rds. through the gun. Show me the "microstamp" that lasts through ONE season of IPSC or IDPA.
 
Let's not forget these raw truths.

1. Criminals don't give a dang about leaving their own microstamped brass on the ground. Microstamp all the guns you want, they will still buy them illegally and use them in crime. And walk away from the brass. They really don't care. But that doesn't truly matter, because...

2. Politicians who pursue microstamping legislation don't give a dang about criminals leaving their microstamped brass on the ground, or even if the technology works. They get hundreds of thousands of votes on election day every time they push crime legislation and get press coverage for it: 'I'm tough on crime'. When you can get thousands of votes in one stroke of the pen, it just doesn't matter if the technology is valid or not.
 
Let's not forget these raw truths.

Shall we also add...

3. It's safe to say one company owns the patent to this absurd "technology", which, without legislation requiring it's use, would never ever see the light of day. If that is indeed the case, they have a strong financial incentive to persuade legislators to require the use of the product. Providing campaign contributions in exchange for legislation is certainly one means to this end.
 
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