I bought 200 once fired 270 win. brass online.I ran them through my rcbs resizing die and loaded them with 150 gr. silver tips. I can't get my bolt to close on my Rem. 700. I have loaded for 30 yrs and have never had this problem. I think they were fired from a gun with to much head space before I bought them. Any help would be welcome.
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rcmodel
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Well, a couple of things I could suggest.
1. NEVER load 100 rounds of anything until you have tested the sized cases in your gun.
2. Pull all the bullets, and size them again with the sizing die screwed down far enough to get press 'cam-over' at full ram extension.
You had enough press flex you didn't actually push the shoulders back where they came from.
rc
1. NEVER load 100 rounds of anything until you have tested the sized cases in your gun.
2. Pull all the bullets, and size them again with the sizing die screwed down far enough to get press 'cam-over' at full ram extension.
You had enough press flex you didn't actually push the shoulders back where they came from.
rc
How did you set up your dies. Did you use a case gauge?
This is a useful web page
Real Guns - Extending Case Life
http://www.realguns.com/Commentary/comar46.htm
This is a useful web page
Real Guns - Extending Case Life
http://www.realguns.com/Commentary/comar46.htm
Since you've been reloading for over 30 years there is very little I can offer to help you but I've found that loading .270 using RCBS dies in a Rockchucker that sometimes I have to turn the sizing die down until it touches the shell holder and then raise the die and turn it down another 1/4 turn. If I am using range brass I will check several after sizing in the gun I plan to shoot them in prior to loading. Hope this helps.
243winxb
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RCBS Small Base 2-Die Set 270 Winchester. http://www.midwayusa.com/product/754934/rcbs-small-base-2-die-set-270-winchester The area neat the extractor cut is not sized by most dies. Brass fired in another rifle, may not fit your gun. Double check the OAL, may be to long??
243Winxb may very well be correct as he is extremely knowledgeable and has helped me out numerous times with various reloading problems over the years. However, unless that .270 brass was fired in a semi-auto or machine gun you shouldn't need to spend money on a SB die (they sell the individual dies). http://www.midwayusa.com/product/509020/rcbs-small-base-sizer-die-270-winchester I have loaded over a thousand rounds of .270 for several different bolt action .270's and have yet to run into any brass that I couldn't get to fit their chambers with using the standard FL RCBS dies. I have SB dies sets for .223, .308 and 30.06 and have yet to need them for any brass being fired in any of my bolt action guns. I did use the .223 for sizing range brass that I shot in a couple of AR-15's and some .308 brass that came from the military that I was shooting in a semi-auto. On Midway's web site they indicate in their description that the SB dies are not recommended for reloading ammo being used in bolt action guns. It would help if you knew what type of gun was used to shoot this ammo. If it was one of those testing facilities then disregard this post and do as 243Winxb has suggested.
Captcurt
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Does the brass chamber without the bullet?
I have 270 Winchester cases that are 50+ years old, never fired. The cases will chamber meaning the cases will allow the bolt to close with out felt resistance to bolt closing. I use the cases for comparison purposes.
My favorite case is the case that will not allow the bolt to close because it is too long from the shoulder to the case head. I want to off set the length of the chamber with the length of the case.
If I had purchased the 200 cases I would have measured the length of the cases from the shoulder to the case head and then compared the cases to my unfired/old stock cases.
When it comes to gages there is no shortage around here. When loading for a chamber I have to know the length of the chamber from the shoulder to the bolt face.
F. Guffey
Some very good points in this thread...
1. GET A CASE GAUGE - LE Wilson makes a great one, and check your cases before and after re-sizing
2. Re-size your brass
2. Trim your cases to length, if needed (AFTER RE-SIZING). Your reloading manual will have the Trim To Length specified, and your case gauge will ID the over/under length brass
3. Test your re-sized and trimmed un-primed brass in your rifle to ensure you can safely chamber it
4. Then chamfer/deburr, prime and reload...
Hope all of this helps...
1. GET A CASE GAUGE - LE Wilson makes a great one, and check your cases before and after re-sizing
2. Re-size your brass
2. Trim your cases to length, if needed (AFTER RE-SIZING). Your reloading manual will have the Trim To Length specified, and your case gauge will ID the over/under length brass
3. Test your re-sized and trimmed un-primed brass in your rifle to ensure you can safely chamber it
4. Then chamfer/deburr, prime and reload...
Hope all of this helps...
Dave P
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I guess the OP is too busy, to bother with giving us any real results. Thanks for nothing!
AlfieB
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The headspace in the rifle could be a tad short. I had a new River 77 in 270Win years ago with that situation. Factory loads would chamber, but resized brass would not. I cured it by machining .003 off the face of the RCBS sizing die, thereby squeezing back the shoulder of the case .003. A gunsmith friend of mine said that it was no longer a 270Win, but, so what. It shot sub-MOA.
AlfieB
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I meant "Ruger" . The spell checker did that.
Thanks for all the help out there. I truly thank yall. I pulled the bullets and reset the sizer die. I ran the cases through again and checked each one my gun. They worked perfectly. I loaded them with powder and reset the bullets. I tried them again in my gun and they worked great. Sorry for the slow response I've been out at the deer lease. Killed a 450lbs. pig yesterday with the same bullets. Again to all my reloading brothers out there A BIG THANK YOU TO ALL WHO OFFERD ADVICE. Maybe someday I can help someone with a reloading problem.
rcmodel
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In my 50 years experience helping others, 99.8% of the time it is not a case too long, or a small base die fix.
Instead, it is a simple matter of screwing the sizing die down far enough to take all the linkage stack, and press frame flex out.
And push the shoulder back where it came from.
Seems it's 99.9% now!!
rc
Instead, it is a simple matter of screwing the sizing die down far enough to take all the linkage stack, and press frame flex out.
And push the shoulder back where it came from.
Seems it's 99.9% now!!
rc
243winxb
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Sizing the brass 2 times would fix it also, same die setting.
http://www.thehighroad.org/showpost.php?p=10094901&postcount=8
243winxb
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Brass fired in a different rifle or Range brass
Sizing the brass 2 times would fix it also, same die setting.
Sizing the brass 2 times would fix it also, same die setting.
http://www.thehighroad.org/showpost.php?p=10094901&postcount=8
rcmodel
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That also sizes and expands the neck twice, which work hardens the case necks twice as fast.
And shortens the time before your brass starts neck cracking.
Just adjust the sizing die right in the first place and the brass will last longer.
rc
And shortens the time before your brass starts neck cracking.
Just adjust the sizing die right in the first place and the brass will last longer.
rc
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