Boyds stock alteration?

[kmw1954]

This question kind of goes along with my other thread but is rather specific in nature. Has anyone here altered a Boyds stock from a Factory Barrel Channel to a larger channel? If so how much work was it and how did it turn out?

Looking at one of their Rapid Fire sale stocks that will fit what I am doing but in the near future will probably swap the Sporter barrel to a Bull barrel.

Don't see a lot of Savage Bottom Bolt Release Model 11 stocks on their Rapid Fire listings.

 

[Varminterror]

Hogging out wood is hogging out wood. I generally set up a jig and router to open the bottom of the channel and the side rails, then use hand tools to do the hogging. It’s quicker to do the job than the measuring and set up of the jigs.

This assumes the stock has enough meat to accept the new barrel diameter - which, in general, most Boyd’s stocks do have.

 

[greyling22]

I've enlarged a barrel channel before with sandpaper wrapped around cylindrical objects. It's hard on the fingers and takes a while. It can be done, but you might be 4-6 hours invested and $10 in sandpaper by the end.

 

[kmw1954]

Hogging out wood is hogging out wood. I generally set up a jig and router to open the bottom of the channel and the side rails, then use hand tools to do the hogging. It’s quicker to do the job than the measuring and set up of the jigs..

Thanks for that, my inexperience is showing.
Don't own a router other than the one connected to the puter, but I do know someone that does and is good with it! Might have to buy him dinner!

 

[Varminterror]

The power tool makes it MUCH quicker than trying to tackle it all by hand, and far more accurate.

 

[doubleh]

I use my old milling/drilling machine with the proper sized router bit. Very easy and precise if it is a straight barrel. Tapered ones require more work.

 

[kmw1954]

Again the inexperience here as this will be my virgin try. The stock I am looking at is called by them a "Factory Barrel Channel" which I am taking to mean a Sporter taper barrel. The barrel I have that may replace it is a Savage 223 Model 12 26" Varmint profile. Just by looks there seems to be a large difference. Though if I chose to not use this here as I may go the 6mm route it will still be a heavy barrel.

The stock I am looking at is only $114.00+ shipping so it's not like I will have a lot of money invested. After-all we must pay for experience correct?

 

[Varminterror]

Measure twice, cut once.

Boyd’s is generally knowledgeable about the maximum contour which will fit in their stocks, might also be worth the phone call.

 

[LoonWulf]

The largest barrel ive installed in a boyds stock is....this one.


That barrel is thicker than anything ive seen on a factory savage besides the targets to date. Thats also the narrowest foreend found on any boyds tock.

 

[kmw1954]

The largest barrel ive installed in a boyds stock is....this one.

That barrel is thicker than anything ive seen on a factory savage besides the targets to date. Thats also the narrowest foreend found on any boyds tock.

Boy that sure looks an awful lot like the one I have here. Will have to measure.
So getting ready to go pick up that barreled action and do a little shooting at the same time. So I'll be back this afternoon.

 

[Varminterror]

@LoonWulf’s photo is a shouldered barrel - which almost inherently are larger diameter in a taper contour than anything you’ll find on a Savage, due to the barrel nut. Starting at 1 1/16” instead of 1.25” has that effect.

 

[rbernie]

The Savage / Boyd's factory barrel channel (FBC) is not set up for magnum or varmint Savage profiles. If Boyds offers the stock that you want in a bull barrel config - that's what you want. You'll have a bit of a gap at the tip of the fore end, but the alternative is opening up the barrel channel.

I have done that, using various diameter hardwood rods wrapped in sandpaper and hand barrel / action inletting tools. It's not NEARLY as precise or repeatable as using a router, but it can be done decently well if you are meticulous and patient (which I am not). I have at least one (1) Boyds stock that I donated to a kid for a project rather than continue to look at my failings in making a well-centered barrel channel.

 

[kmw1954]

Well folks the Model 12 Varmint barrel arrived on Monday and the Model 11 barreled action was picked up this morning. The barrel and receiver on the Model 11 look very good. I doubt it was shot a whole lot. Now how the stock got broken I have no clue. it is broken at the cutout for the bolt, down thru the trigger guard and up the other side, I'm thinking someone smashed the butt against something hard.

Later tonight I hope to get a better inspection of everything and on Friday my friend is bringing his bore scope and we will scope both barrels. But now that I have the receiver in hand I also have the serial number so I can contact Savage about replacement parts for the bottom metal and trigger guard with bolt release. At the same time I will talk to them about converting it from a DBM to a blind magazine and compare the costs.

Still undecided as to which direction to go with this for now. Leave it as-is if the barrel checks out, Rebarrel it to the 223 or wait and just do the 6mm in BR, Dasher, XC or maybe even a 6mm ARC.

 

[rbernie]

At the same time I will talk to them about converting it from a DBM to a blind magazine and compare the costs

All you need to convert the Savage from DBM to a blind magazine is a replacement stock configured for a blind centerfeed magazine, and the requisite short action internal centerfeed magazine. There is no difference in action / receiver between a centerfeed blind magazine and a centerfeed DMB. I routinely swap barreled actions between a DBM chassis and blind magazine sporter stock.

I bought my internal/centerfeed mag bits off eBay, last that I was in need.

 

[kmw1954]

There is no difference in action / receiver between a centerfeed blind magazine and a centerfeed DMB. .

That is already known and understood. the difference is in the magazine parts needed besides the obvious stock.

 

[rbernie]

That is already known and understood.

Maybe not to all, hence my willingness to put it in writing for posterity. That's what we do here, I thought.

the difference is in the magazine parts needed besides the obvious stock.

Magazine body, spring/follower, and retention clip. I've had good luck trolling eBay for take-off stocks and reclaiming the magazine internals from it.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/154551125345?hash=item23fbf70561:g:1FEAAOSwuxhg08dj

 

[kmw1954]

Maybe not to all,

I keep forgetting that some reply to all in general and not specifically to the OP to answer a question.