Brand New 627 PC Report.

[Master Blaster]

Do any of you folks have a new 627 PC? How was your trigger??

Yesterday I took my new 627PC to the range. It fired 100% and the accuracy seems to be good.

The Gun will be going back to Springfield when I receive the prepaid shipping label. This 627 with its supposed performance center action job, has the WORST double action trigger I have ever felt on a revolver. I have several N frames and 2 have had action jobs the rest have not, All are smooth as butter, the 627 PC is HORRIBLE.

Its clunky gritty, and uneven, I'm sure it didn't have any action or trigger work done to it what so ever. I called Smith and Wesson and complained and the label is on its way

The barrel is on straight, and the rifling looks good though. For a gun they list at $1200, you think they would have at least tried the trigger before they sent it out.

My other complaint with the gun is that it doesnt have the interchangeable front sight, the hole is there for the mechanism, but it has a gold bead sight that is pinned with a single flimsey roll pin. Apparently they changed this in the last year or so, because one I looked at last january had the interchangeable sight.

Very disappointing, especially since last year I bought a 22-4 used for $450, and it has a buttery smooth trigger and a wonderful blued finish.

BTW The reason I took delivery of it rather than leaving it at the shop, is that my club FFL ordered it for me, and I would have had to pay shipping to and from the wholesaler to return it, so I opted to keep it and send it to S&W myself. My price was $862 with overnight shipping. This is why I hesitate to buy any gun site unseen, or special order.

Do any of you folks have a new 627 PC? How was your trigger? The springs also seem very heavy on mine, so even with the action job was the trigger still heavy on yours??

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[Black_Talon]

My other complaint with the gun is that it doesnt have the interchangeable front sight, the hole is there for the mechanism, but it has a gold bead sight that is pinned with a single flimsey roll pin.

Are you sure? The normal replaceable front sight blades are held in place by that roll-pin which fits into the dovetail of the sight-blade, with pressure applied on the sight blade by a springloaded plunger behind the sight blade. Look at the front of the ramp to see if there's a hole there. If so, you can remove the sight blade by pushing the sight blade backwards against the spring pressure with a small tool, and then pulling it up out of the ramp.

 

[Evyl Robot]

BT,

That's the way the wife's gun is.

--Michael

 

[RON in PA]

I've had my 627 for several years and remember that when new the SA trigger was like a hair trigger, just think about it and the gun would go off. But I'm a DA shooter and I was disappointed with the DA pull. That changed as the gun broke in. No complaints now. If you don't send your gun to S&W and it's anything like mine within 500-1,000 rounds you won't have any complaints.

This has been my experience with several new Smiths, they need a break in period of 500-1,000 rounds to have a descent DA trigger.

 

[Master Blaster]

Ron the thing is the gun is supposed to have a performance center action job, so I dont expect rough gritty and heavy.

BT I will try that, I expected the hole in the front was supposed to have a plunger like my Redhawk, since there are no instructions it seemed like they had implemented a cost cutting measure. It does make sense thought because I can see the roll pin from the front hole, and I was thinking it went throught the blade.

 

[ClemY]

That is too bad. I have two and both came with a very good trigger. I did a few things to them and improved them a little more, but they both have terrific triggers and are very accurate. They also have removable front sights. I have put serrated rampes on mine.

 

[MrTuffPaws]

The Gun will be going back to Springfield when I receive the prepaid shipping label.

You might want to reconsider where you're sending the gun for the fix.

 

[hexidismal]

MrTuffPaws: he's talking about Springfield, MA where S&W guns would be sent, not the firearms company Springfield.

 

[rbert0005]

MB,

Ten minutes in the action and about 500 dryfires and you WILL have a buttery smooth double action pull.

Bob

 

[Master Blaster]

rbert0005 I have been shooting the gun, and dry firing it. It has smoothed up alot, Friday I shot 100 rounds 50 lead swc, and 50 full power jacketeds. Yesterday I put 125 rounds down range I oiled it and dryfired it a bunch. The trigger is smoothing up, but the springs are way too heavy. I was in Traget Master to see if they had one NIB so I could compare mine, and see if the Lawyer worked action and springs was the same. They didnt have a PC but did have the PRO model which also has had an action job. Guess what it was just as bad.

So I guess a PC action job is meaningless. I will order some wolf reduced springs, trigger return and main, and put them in myself.

 

[ClemY]

Both my 627PCs came with Wolff mainsprings. I got a couple of FTF with some hard primers and put in slightly heavier factory springs. They still have terrific triggers.

 

[earplug]

Roll pin verses QD front sight

I have both the roll pin, and quick detachable front sights.
The roll pin sights are very easy to change out and the cost is much less then the QD sights. Roll pin sights for $7.00 you can mess around with heights, beads, colours etc.
The QD are around $30.00.
Roll pins sights don't QD on there own when pushed around in a leather holster.

 

[Master Blaster]

Thanks earplug, I'm glad I wasnt imagining the one I saw used a year or two ago was different. Yeah I figured out how to get the front sight off. I will have to order a ramp or patridge style, even though the gold bead is cool.

Today I turned the strain screw out 1 full turn, and tried shooting it double action, no clips, great improvement the DA feels 5lbs lighter and primers were all hit hard. So I will keep shooting for now.

 

[Katty]

HA! I sold mine just last month.
Bought it shot it a bunch and realized it was a piece of crap for the $900.00 period.
Went to the 686 Pro Series and knowing it wasn't quite the 627PC and what a bigger piece of doodoo.
These new revolvers sure sren't what they used to be.
Now you want to throw a bunch of money at a gunsmith ok. But these PC guns are a rip off. Just like everything else now a days. You'd think these better gun companies wouldn't do this I mean it's their name they're putting out there.

 

[9mmepiphany]

when you're ready to take a step up the smoothness scale, Randy Lee, over at Apex Tactical is "the man" when it comes to the DA wheelgun.

is competition DA trigger pulls run down in the 5.5lb range

 

[igorts]

do you know what tension is for default for factory mainspring?
BTW, mine 327 (TRR8) has decent trigger, but i could try to lower it anyway.

 

[Hawk]

Do any of you folks have a new 627 PC? How was your trigger?

I've got some kind of PC 627. I tried the trigger at the shop and, due strictly to that trigger, wrote a check for the thing on the spot. This in spite of the fact that I really hadn't warmed up to the new stuff for a number of reasons. Trigger was nice enough I overlooked the other issues.

"Better" is a slippery concept so I'll simply say that the 627's trigger was considerably more "agreeable" than any of the older S&W's I own (all post war and includes a 27, several each 57s and 686s). My double-action-fu took an immediate jump over the pointy part of learning curve and I was impressed.

Being an 8-shooter, the cylinder stop engages well before the DA break but, though I thought this would be troublesome, I haven't noticed it.

I bought it strictly due to the trigger and in spite of everything else which would appear to be exactly opposite your experience. This is hardly anything new to me - I got a 28-2 with a perfectly horrible trigger and routinely listen to how buttery smooth those P&Rs were in the forums. I have yet to find a post war with as nice a trigger as the 627 (with the exception of a 686 with molested strain screw that won't light any two out of six rounds on the first try).

 

[dpeticca]

My Trigger is GREAT!

Sorry you don't like yours.

I like the SA trigger a lot.

I do think the DA pull is really heavy though. I expected better. But, I use this for targets and as a range gun, and not for competition or self defense. I'd probably send it off to get tuned by an independent gun smith. I do think Smith & Wesson's "Performance Center" is still bound to certain "best practices" with respect to triggers, and I don't blame them. Were it not 2008, I'd expect their Performance Center could probably do a much better job on that trigger....

If you have any problems when you get it back, let me know, I'm in the market for another!