Brand new Charter Arms Undercover - Not Pleased at all

If Taurus made a current production 6 shot J frame sized 32 and their warranty time for repair wasn't calendar pages long it would be a true option for me. Until then charter arms and their 50/50 out of the box guns we'll have to.
 
JERRY said:
That's incredible turnaround for Brazil and back. I guess I should have specified in an airweight type gun.
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Warranty returns for Taurus go to Bainbridge, GA now for just about everything I believe. I'm not sure how involved Brazil is anymore now that the new factory is in Georgia.

It is clear that new factory having been built and staffed by better management and employees has made all the difference for Taurus QC and repairs.
 
TTv2 said:
Warranty returns for Taurus go to Bainbridge, GA now for just about everything I believe. I'm not sure how involved Brazil is anymore now that the new factory is in Georgia.

It is clear that new factory having been built and staffed by better management and employees has made all the difference for Taurus QC and repairs.
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That is very promising with a stateside facility now. That 6 shot 32 snub in an air weight gun would be something I'd be all over, especially under $400!
 
I won't say that it'll never happen, but outside of Charter nobody seems keen on making an aluminum frame .32 Mag J frame. Those that are interested in making a .32 revolver in the industry are all focused on the super magnum .327 now, which shows that the industry hasn't changed since the 60s and the .41 Magnum flopping because they were obsessed with power, not practicality.
 
TTv2 said:
I won't say that it'll never happen, but outside of Charter nobody seems keen on making an aluminum frame .32 Mag J frame. Those that are interested in making a .32 revolver in the industry are all focused on the super magnum .327 now, which shows that the industry hasn't changed since the 60s and the .41 Magnum flopping because they were obsessed with power, not practicality.
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True.

But what is great about a .327 Federal gun is it can easily handle "Hot" .32 magnums. (And .32 S&WL and .32 S&W)
 
i thank everybody for your comments and advice! i have had much running to and fro here lately and haven't had much time to deal with this problem. i spoke with the dealer and he told me to call CA and get a shipping label and he would ship it for me. that's a load off my mind because i know nothing about the legalities of shipping firearms.

so i'll do that and we'll see how this goes. i really like this gun and hope i can get it right. we wife hasn't fired it yet but she shouldn't have any trouble with it.
 
Shivahasagun said:
True.

But what is great about a .327 Federal gun is it can easily handle "Hot" .32 magnums. (And .32 S&WL and .32 S&W)
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If well made using quality steel, a .32 Mag chambered revolver could easily handle 35K PSI, but at that point you can't put them in an aluminum frame. Not that it matters, the industry would never make a revolver and advertise it can safely exceed SAAMI standards.
 
JERRY said:
If Taurus made a current production 6 shot J frame sized 32 and their warranty time for repair wasn't calendar pages long it would be a true option for me. Until then charter arms and their 50/50 out of the box guns we'll have to.
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Same here. I like the idea of the Taurus 327, but it's built on the 6-shot 856 .38 special sized frame not the old j-frame sized 85 series. Which makes me wonder, could Taurus make it a 7-shooter? Similar to the CA .32 Professional?
 
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chicharrones said:
Same here. I like the idea of the Taurus 327, but it's built on the 6-shot 856 .38 special sized frame not the old j-frame sized 85 series. Which makes me wonder, could Taurus make it a 7-shooter? Similar to the CA .32 Professional?
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I was under the impression that their new 327 was a 6 shot "J frame" size gun.
 
JERRY said:
I'll pass on this one then. I like a six shot j frame size gun.
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Same here. Hence my CA Undercoverette.

Edit to add: Choosing between the same size 856 and 327 is a no brainer for me. 856 all the way. Ammo is easier to find and it can shoot easy going wadcutters up to .38 Special +P.
 
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My CA (357 Target Bulldog) has been with me for nearly 40 years so it is not a new model and QC may have been different at CA back then. It is not my favorite revolver but it has been a good one considering what I paid for it. The DA on it is a bit rough compared to a S&W, Colt or Dan Wesson and It requires periodic check and tightening of a few screws but it is surprisingly accurate and reliable. I sometimes think of replacing it with a Taurus snub 357 or a used S&W or Ruger if I can find one at the right price but hasn't happened yet.
 
I installed the Wolff extra power hammer spring in my Charter .44 and it smacks the firing pin hard now. Should break the transfer bar any time! :thumbup:

It made the trigger pull much heavier, too.

I just traded it to a relative with disclosure. He has a bunch of guns and will never fire or carry it. But I believe it would work just fine for a small amount of firing. Unless it breaks.

I'll see him again in a few weeks to pick something from his collection as trade.

I'm glad it's gone. I like durable guns.
 
The steel frame LCR's are a fine revolver and all, but not $600 fine imo. This is why those who have asked for a .32 Mag LCR built on the lighter. 38 LCR frame is not something I would be against because I have seen those .38 LCRs go for under 350 in years past. Make it .32 Mag and keep it under 400 and I'm game, much more so than the Charter Undercoverette.
 
TTv2 said:
The steel frame LCR's are a fine revolver and all, but not $600 fine imo. This is why those who have asked for a .32 Mag LCR built on the lighter. 38 LCR frame is not something I would be against because I have seen those .38 LCRs go for under 350 in years past. Make it .32 Mag and keep it under 400 and I'm game, much more so than the Charter Undercoverette.
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I’ve owned LCR’s in 9mm, 38spl, and now own two a 357 & 327
I wish I kept the 9mm .. sorta had a Duh huh moment… but the LCR38 went when I traded my SP101 for the the LCR357 …. I searched for a LCR327 … everywhere.. then I called a semi- local 327 .. and I left work drove 15 miles one way to buy it … amazing revolver .. triggers are great ( to me)

Id like to see a LCR 32 H&R also .. 6 shot .. shorter cylinder for the shorter 32 H&R cartridge.. with a extended forcing cone …

Or a 7 shot 856UL 32H&R
 
American Finn said:
Reading all of the problems with Charter Arms and how many folks have had to return them for warranty work it begs the question: wouldn't it just be cheaper to build the damn things right in the first place? My gosh, they have to be spending a fortune in shipping and repairing all these guns that come back. Just taking a guess but it seems like 70% of the folks on this thread have had to send a Charter back for warranty repair. :scrutiny:
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No, because likely 90% of people don’t fire them much nor return them
 
thunderbyrd said:
i bought a brand new in the box Charter Arms Undercover this week, took it out to shoot today. first trigger pull, snap. light strike. i thought "surely i am mistaken" but i wasn't. i experienced at least one FtF in each 5-round cylinder. 20-30% failure, all light strikes. i do not know how to make any adjustments to it and have no idea if there's anything i can do to fix it. i assume if i go trying to work on it the warranty would be void.

so, i suppose the deal is that the dealer doesn't take it back, i have to ship it to Charter Arms? i just didn't expect this. i thought everybody making guns ought to know how to make a doggone snub nosed .38. i learned. buy cheap, get cheap.

i am working at night and my wife is here alone. she is not able to get around very fast and i wanted her to have a small gun she can easily handle, and a revolver so she doesn't have to think about it much if she needs to use it. the plan was working fine til i actually fired the gun.
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I got a Charter Arms 357 snubby for my wife about ten years ago. We regularly go to the range together. It's never failed to fire. We got the laser grips for it and she is pretty good at hitting the target. Generally she practices with 38 special but sometimes full house 357 loads.

CA has some pretty spectacular customer service. Give them a chance, they aim to please.
 
Tall said:
I got a Charter Arms 357 snubby for my wife about ten years ago. We regularly go to the range together. It's never failed to fire. We got the laser grips for it and she is pretty good at hitting the target. Generally she practices with 38 special but sometimes full house 357 loads.

CA has some pretty spectacular customer service. Give them a chance, they aim to please.
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I don't think anybody here is complaining about their customer service however they are complaining about the almost guaranteed need for it right out of the box.
 
JERRY said:
I don't think anybody here is complaining about their customer service however they are complaining about the almost guaranteed need for it right out of the box.
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I hear it's good but have never used it. I have only owned the 357 snubby and a 44 special snubby CA so what do I know? I do know the laser grips shipped from there with a tracking number the day I ordered them and showed up in two days, and fit and worked perfectly.
 
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