offroaddiver
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is what an officer told me i could be charged with next time.
With respect to the moderators I'll tell just the facts but i will not disclose details.
This past month a case was settled involving charges of criminal trespassing on my property. The highlights of the police report include. Two african american males in their early 20's entered a garage and proceeded to harass a older Caucasian male late 50's. The male from testimony and report of wife and son told the men to leave or the police would be called. The two african american males threatened the male in 50's that the cops would not arrive in time. Within moments a male late 20's entered the garage and told the two african american males to leave. The two african american males told the old man to call the cops, which the 50's male did.
When police arrived the male with the firearm obeyed officers commands to place gun on ground back away and place hands on head.
The 50's male is my father and i am the person with the firearm. Here is what has happened. I have spent time giving testimony in court. I have had the families of the two 20's males take me to civil court. The judges in the civil lawsuits turned dismissed their claims. The two 20's males have received punishment through the courts.
The officers that arrived were professional. They placed myself and the other 20's males in handcuffs. Myself front cuffed and the other 2 cuffed behind the back. Hey I had a cuff key in my pocket but that's another story so I understood cuffing the guy that's a foot taller than the rest of the cops. As soon as they understood the situation they uncuffed me and apologized. They took the two males in and that started the court dates and ordeal.
Here's my bit. The officers were polite but they wanted to throw some weight around. They wanted to make sure that other weapons were secure in the house to which I informed the firearm is secure and if they wish to see the rest they may obtain a warrant to which they told me that I could be charged with disturbing the peace and brandishing a firearm. Their supervisor (I now have 6 cop cars in front of my house) arrived and said that it wouldn't be much of a case since they didn't have forced entry evidence and no one was injured. They all acted like they just wanted to send the males on their way and not do any paperwork. Then they perked up when one of the men had a warrant out for his arrest.
I have heard the following statement numerous times the last couple of months.... " (male) is an outstanding member of the community. Is an active member of his parish. He has had a few problems but he is trying to have a better life for him and his children."
When I encountered these males, My father was standing frightened and the two males had items in their hands. I had two men my size try to stare me down while I am armed. They grabbed items when they saw me. These two men are still alive today.
To those interested my house sits 100 yards from the road. The closest house is directly behind the house and that is 125+ feet the next closest is directly across the road. There is no accidently stumbling into my garage. We just had a friend come help unload a oven that was a floor model into the garage.
My security wasn't there. I don't want to think of what may have happened if any one event changed. I don't want to start a rant. Make your own inferences. I feel something would have happened regardless of whether or not the garage was open or closed. I have looked at everything that happened, within a 4 hour window the encounter would have been made either in my driveway or in my garage. The 2 minute window that I wasn't in the garage was to get some fresh coffee.
Do I believe they were watching for the right moment, yes. Do I believe something may have happened if i hadn't have come out to the garage when i did, yes. Do i believe it would have been worse if i wasn't armed, yes.
I carry. I will carry. I carry when home.
Have I lost sleep, no. Am i paranoid, no. Do i protect myself and my family, what do you think?
With respect to the moderators I'll tell just the facts but i will not disclose details.
This past month a case was settled involving charges of criminal trespassing on my property. The highlights of the police report include. Two african american males in their early 20's entered a garage and proceeded to harass a older Caucasian male late 50's. The male from testimony and report of wife and son told the men to leave or the police would be called. The two african american males threatened the male in 50's that the cops would not arrive in time. Within moments a male late 20's entered the garage and told the two african american males to leave. The two african american males told the old man to call the cops, which the 50's male did.
When police arrived the male with the firearm obeyed officers commands to place gun on ground back away and place hands on head.
The 50's male is my father and i am the person with the firearm. Here is what has happened. I have spent time giving testimony in court. I have had the families of the two 20's males take me to civil court. The judges in the civil lawsuits turned dismissed their claims. The two 20's males have received punishment through the courts.
The officers that arrived were professional. They placed myself and the other 20's males in handcuffs. Myself front cuffed and the other 2 cuffed behind the back. Hey I had a cuff key in my pocket but that's another story so I understood cuffing the guy that's a foot taller than the rest of the cops. As soon as they understood the situation they uncuffed me and apologized. They took the two males in and that started the court dates and ordeal.
Here's my bit. The officers were polite but they wanted to throw some weight around. They wanted to make sure that other weapons were secure in the house to which I informed the firearm is secure and if they wish to see the rest they may obtain a warrant to which they told me that I could be charged with disturbing the peace and brandishing a firearm. Their supervisor (I now have 6 cop cars in front of my house) arrived and said that it wouldn't be much of a case since they didn't have forced entry evidence and no one was injured. They all acted like they just wanted to send the males on their way and not do any paperwork. Then they perked up when one of the men had a warrant out for his arrest.
I have heard the following statement numerous times the last couple of months.... " (male) is an outstanding member of the community. Is an active member of his parish. He has had a few problems but he is trying to have a better life for him and his children."
When I encountered these males, My father was standing frightened and the two males had items in their hands. I had two men my size try to stare me down while I am armed. They grabbed items when they saw me. These two men are still alive today.
To those interested my house sits 100 yards from the road. The closest house is directly behind the house and that is 125+ feet the next closest is directly across the road. There is no accidently stumbling into my garage. We just had a friend come help unload a oven that was a floor model into the garage.
My security wasn't there. I don't want to think of what may have happened if any one event changed. I don't want to start a rant. Make your own inferences. I feel something would have happened regardless of whether or not the garage was open or closed. I have looked at everything that happened, within a 4 hour window the encounter would have been made either in my driveway or in my garage. The 2 minute window that I wasn't in the garage was to get some fresh coffee.
Do I believe they were watching for the right moment, yes. Do I believe something may have happened if i hadn't have come out to the garage when i did, yes. Do i believe it would have been worse if i wasn't armed, yes.
I carry. I will carry. I carry when home.
Have I lost sleep, no. Am i paranoid, no. Do i protect myself and my family, what do you think?
