brass jacketed bullet fouling

[Geneseo1911]

I've been practicing my handgun shooting skills lately and have been putting a fair few rounds through my CZ 75 P-01. I figured Czech ammo would be a good bet for a Czech gun, so I bought (a while ago) 1000 rounds of Sellier & Bellot 31045 115 gr. FMJ. The ammo has been fine so far, but I've got the P-01 field stripped in front of me and the barrel appears to have a large amount of fouling. It looks somewhat like copper fouling, but it's more yellowish. I assume this is to be expected as these rounds have a brass jacket. S&B's website calls it CuZn30.

The problem is, I cannot get it out. In the past I've been able to remove copper fouling with a good hour or two Hoppe's soak, but this stuff has had a wet flannel patch down the bore for about 4 hours now and it doesn't want to budge. Does anyone have any suggestions? Do I need to let it sit overnight? I need to clean my HD pistol as well, but I hate to take it down until I can replace it with the CZ. I guess I could always dig out the short barrel for the pump-gun...

I'm a little bit discouraged by this problem. I was really liking the ammo otherwise (relatively accurate & consistent, clean), and S&B is consistently one of the cheapest around.

 

[VA27]

Don't worry about it. If you absolutly have to have a pristine bore, swab it out with Brasso or a quality metal polish. Sweet's should work, too.

 

[ants]

Well, just get a bore cleaner made for removing copper deposits. Outers Copper Kleenz, Remington 40-X, Barnes CR-10 (my favorite) or any other copper fouling cleaner.

All jackets are a copper alloy. The 'golden' ones like S&B, Montana Gold, Armscor Premium, PMC premium, have more zinc in them. The copper bore cleaners work well on all of them. If you use a brass rod, the copper cleaner will slightly disolve the rod; no big deal, but your patches may always come out bluish.

 

[Bugman53]

remmington bonded golden sabers are brass jacketed. I have thought about fouling but i never see any in my bore.

 

[TDR911]

Here is a product I use. Spray the foam in and let it sit overnight and it will remove any copper . If it is fouled real bad you may have to do it several times. No brushing . I use it in my long range rifles as any time you use a brush you will slowly distort the finish of the rifling and affect accuracy.
Read all of his info and call him if you have questions.
Great Stuff

http://www.sharpshootr.com/

 

[Geneseo1911]

Well, an overnight soak with Hoppe's didn't make much difference. I wouldn't worry about it so much , but the inside of the barrel looks like a gravel road. I guess I'll have to try something stronger. I appreciate the suggestions for products here. I'm just amazed as I've never seen fouling this stubborn.

 

[Blind Bat]

I started using Hoppes bore gel when I noticed junk building up on the edge between the grooves and lands.

You put the gel on a bore brush, run it through the barell, let it sit for 15 minutes and then run patches through it. The stuff is amazing.