12-34hom
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BIG GAME HUNTING with a 50 cal sounds good to me.
Got room for another??
12-34hom.
Got room for another??
12-34hom.
Bring your gun....climb aboard the time machine.
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.45Ruger
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Maybe go back and stop that idiot Hinkley from shooting Reagan, and James Brady thus silencing one of our most vocal opponents and getting a nut job off the street.
erikm
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Hmm. What shall we take? 
Where shall we go?
Most likely a semiautomatic Barrett .50" rifle.
I'd also take the indepth books on large caliber guns and howitzers, machineguns and autocannon, tracked vehicle, AFV and tank development, aircraft design and engine design. I would also have a list of tracked vehicle designers, developers and builders throughout history.
I would also take detailed stock listings to make the money I will be needing. I'll also have to have proper ID paperwork as well.
My destination would be the eastern US, ca. 1910. The period until the outbreak of WWI I would spend quietly making a fortune on the stock markets and using the proceeds to lay the groundwork for later actions. Note that I would in no way try to prevent WWI. It or something like it was more or less inevitable since the late 1890s. My primary aim is to end WWI before the really nasty battles of attrition take place, to allow a milder peace for the loser and therefore hopefully prevent WWII. My secondary aim is to become very very rich.
On my list of 'things to do or buy' would be:
- Buy a license for or full rights to John M. Browning's .30 machine gun (which became the M1917)
- Commission John M. Browning to design a machinegun around the cartridge for my rifle. I ask him to base it on his .30 machine gun, scaled up. I negotiate to keep all rights to the weapon's design but am prepared to settle for a license.
- Buy a small locomotive works, boiler factory or other factory with 'heavy metal' engineering experience.
- Buy a license for the Holt Tractor, with R&D rights (I want to 'develop' the design).
- Try to talk Anthony Fokker into emigrating to the US. Help him set up an aircraft company there.
- Commission or 'invent' a heavy petrol engine
- Commission work on heavy high-torque transmissions
I would spend the time up to august 1914 developing a 20 ton sloped tracked chassis with a sloped, armored, 3 man turret. It would be armed with a 75mm howitzer, a coaxial .30" machine gun, a pintle MG (commander's hatch) and maybe a hull MG. A crew of 5 would be likely. The hull must be capable of taking a larger turret ring than initially fitted.
A very likely variant would be an armored engineering vehicle. Think of the Centurion AVRE, complete with fascine carrier.
I would also develop an unarmored cargo vehicle variant for use as a prime mover and a sloped moderately armored box variant as multipurpose tracked vehicle. These I might offer for sale prewar as all terrain tractors.
Other things to 'develop' (but keep under wraps) before war breaks out include a 4" mortar (Stokes type) and machine gun aircraft interruptor gearing.
Once war breaks out, I offer the weapons, armored vehicles and advice on how to use them (en masse, on hard ground, without preliminary bombardment, with infantry support) to the US Army and to the british, to the point of privately funding and fielding a volunteer armored company (1st volunteer armored, colloquially the Boss's Brass Knucks).
Of course, if I want to take a particularly perverse tack, I could land in the Netherlands or Germany instead of the US. In this case I would land a year or two earlier and work toward a fast german victory. I'm fairly sure Krupp and members of the german high command would be fascinated by some of my proposals.
Cheers,
ErikM
Where shall we go? Most likely a semiautomatic Barrett .50" rifle.
I'd also take the indepth books on large caliber guns and howitzers, machineguns and autocannon, tracked vehicle, AFV and tank development, aircraft design and engine design. I would also have a list of tracked vehicle designers, developers and builders throughout history.
I would also take detailed stock listings to make the money I will be needing. I'll also have to have proper ID paperwork as well.
My destination would be the eastern US, ca. 1910. The period until the outbreak of WWI I would spend quietly making a fortune on the stock markets and using the proceeds to lay the groundwork for later actions. Note that I would in no way try to prevent WWI. It or something like it was more or less inevitable since the late 1890s. My primary aim is to end WWI before the really nasty battles of attrition take place, to allow a milder peace for the loser and therefore hopefully prevent WWII. My secondary aim is to become very very rich.
On my list of 'things to do or buy' would be:
- Buy a license for or full rights to John M. Browning's .30 machine gun (which became the M1917)
- Commission John M. Browning to design a machinegun around the cartridge for my rifle. I ask him to base it on his .30 machine gun, scaled up. I negotiate to keep all rights to the weapon's design but am prepared to settle for a license.
- Buy a small locomotive works, boiler factory or other factory with 'heavy metal' engineering experience.
- Buy a license for the Holt Tractor, with R&D rights (I want to 'develop' the design).
- Try to talk Anthony Fokker into emigrating to the US. Help him set up an aircraft company there.
- Commission or 'invent' a heavy petrol engine
- Commission work on heavy high-torque transmissions
I would spend the time up to august 1914 developing a 20 ton sloped tracked chassis with a sloped, armored, 3 man turret. It would be armed with a 75mm howitzer, a coaxial .30" machine gun, a pintle MG (commander's hatch) and maybe a hull MG. A crew of 5 would be likely. The hull must be capable of taking a larger turret ring than initially fitted.
A very likely variant would be an armored engineering vehicle. Think of the Centurion AVRE, complete with fascine carrier.
I would also develop an unarmored cargo vehicle variant for use as a prime mover and a sloped moderately armored box variant as multipurpose tracked vehicle. These I might offer for sale prewar as all terrain tractors.
Other things to 'develop' (but keep under wraps) before war breaks out include a 4" mortar (Stokes type) and machine gun aircraft interruptor gearing.
Once war breaks out, I offer the weapons, armored vehicles and advice on how to use them (en masse, on hard ground, without preliminary bombardment, with infantry support) to the US Army and to the british, to the point of privately funding and fielding a volunteer armored company (1st volunteer armored, colloquially the Boss's Brass Knucks).
Of course, if I want to take a particularly perverse tack, I could land in the Netherlands or Germany instead of the US. In this case I would land a year or two earlier and work toward a fast german victory. I'm fairly sure Krupp and members of the german high command would be fascinated by some of my proposals.
Cheers,
ErikM
erikm
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An interesting place and time would be northern germany, 1630 or so. The gun would be an automatic pistol, preferably a fairly powerful one. Other things to bring would be body armor, a good first aid kit and some good binoculars.
The job would be to keep king Gustav Adolf of Sweden alive as long as possible. Given that he leads horse cavalry charges this may be difficult. 1632 is a more extreme version of this (a town goes back).
Of course, if you want to muck up history really incredibly badly, you could go back to Italy (Florence probably) before 1416. You would have to kill Cosimo de Medici, one of the founding members of the de Medici family. The side effect of this slaying would be to significantly delay or even cancel the Renaissance. Middle ages lasting until 1700 anyone? A pistol seems the best tool for this job.
Cheers,
ErikM
The job would be to keep king Gustav Adolf of Sweden alive as long as possible. Given that he leads horse cavalry charges this may be difficult. 1632 is a more extreme version of this (a town goes back).
Of course, if you want to muck up history really incredibly badly, you could go back to Italy (Florence probably) before 1416. You would have to kill Cosimo de Medici, one of the founding members of the de Medici family. The side effect of this slaying would be to significantly delay or even cancel the Renaissance. Middle ages lasting until 1700 anyone? A pistol seems the best tool for this job.
Cheers,
ErikM
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Well as some of you have mentioned killing todays tyrants or the tyrants of past would make you murders. If you can live with that then so be it. Killing/murdering these men would have done no good. As you know that when a tyrant is killed there is a power vaccum and someone just as bad and mean looks to make an example of the people to show how ruthless he really is. So with that in mind killing off the tyrants and what not is a good idea, but things are the way they are because of them. Dont get me wrong if given the chance and employeed by the government to bring about justice on Osama bin Laden I would. But who says that I have enough training as is to accomplish this task. He has been doing his thing and training since his youth but I am still but a youth, however I am confident that if the Lord wanted me to win I would. Going back to the various times as some of you have mentioned how can you be sure that your skill level of combat would hold up to those who have been fighting much longer than you?
As for me I would go back with my 1911 and learn the weapons of the various eras and become knowledgeable on a vast many styles of combat/types of weapons. I would not want to go back and kill anyone for in doing so things would be a great deal different and not what I know. The role of an observer would be my cup of tea.
Take note of this; I am not saying that hitler and the sort did not need to be killed. However, I am saying that things are the way they are for a reason. We as gun aficondos use hitler as a gun control example, if he was killed we would not have that specific example. Well I have worn out my soap box and brain so I am going to get back to my duties.
As for me I would go back with my 1911 and learn the weapons of the various eras and become knowledgeable on a vast many styles of combat/types of weapons. I would not want to go back and kill anyone for in doing so things would be a great deal different and not what I know. The role of an observer would be my cup of tea.
Take note of this; I am not saying that hitler and the sort did not need to be killed. However, I am saying that things are the way they are for a reason. We as gun aficondos use hitler as a gun control example, if he was killed we would not have that specific example. Well I have worn out my soap box and brain so I am going to get back to my duties.
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I'd take a Mauser Gewehr 1871 and a few books about history, metallurgy and engineering and travel back to the year 1858.
Then I would visit Mr. Jefferson Davis to give him that rifle and the books. I assume that Mr. Davis would know what to do with those presents of mine.
Then I would visit Mr. Jefferson Davis to give him that rifle and the books. I assume that Mr. Davis would know what to do with those presents of mine.
Cosmoline
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send me anywhere before the 16th cent.
With my trusty CZ-452 and a backpack full of ammo bricks and I'll rule the world (mu ha ha ha)
With my trusty CZ-452 and a backpack full of ammo bricks and I'll rule the world (mu ha ha ha)
grampster
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AK 47, about 10,000 rounds of ammo spotted strategicaly around W. Va and Kentucky, Penna, SE Ohio. Then partner me up with Lewis Wetzel, "La vent de la morte" (the wind of death) who roamed this area during the early settlement times prior to the Revolutionary War, protecting the settlers and living off the the land.
grampster
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Hi guys,
I'm from the 30th century and carry with me an extra small but
extra powerful organic desintegrator capable of single or multiple
human extermination, in addition I have a 101th generation anti material laser musket for use against heavy armour, aircraft, building or ship.
Both weapons use mental energy from the shooter to fire.
Accuracy is in the order of .1 MOA at 1000 yards for the desintegrator and 1 MOA at 1000 yards for the musket, we are working hard to increase the accuracy of the design.
I'm myself equiped with a global threat protection module consisting of a see thru apocalypse blast and thermal energy bouncer as well as an ultra kinetic energy repeller.
In other words I'm invincible.
Furthermore, our medical field technology permits us to live 500 years instead of 75 years back in the 21st century, as far as our Galaxian library tells us.
Our scientists are constantly increasing our life expectancy, hopefully in 20 more decades, we'll be immortal.
I don't think I could benefit this medical progress 'coz I'm now 320 years old, but who knows, I keep on hoping.
I'm now back in june 14th 2003 and willing to change this world for a better one.
If you want my help, pls send me a message via the intersideral communication system.
Oops, I forgot that you still have the obsolete geostationary satellites.
OK then, let's meet at the bar of your choice, I can teleport to any location in the entire milky way.
LRRPS
I'm from the 30th century and carry with me an extra small but
extra powerful organic desintegrator capable of single or multiple
human extermination, in addition I have a 101th generation anti material laser musket for use against heavy armour, aircraft, building or ship.
Both weapons use mental energy from the shooter to fire.
Accuracy is in the order of .1 MOA at 1000 yards for the desintegrator and 1 MOA at 1000 yards for the musket, we are working hard to increase the accuracy of the design.
I'm myself equiped with a global threat protection module consisting of a see thru apocalypse blast and thermal energy bouncer as well as an ultra kinetic energy repeller.
In other words I'm invincible.
Furthermore, our medical field technology permits us to live 500 years instead of 75 years back in the 21st century, as far as our Galaxian library tells us.
Our scientists are constantly increasing our life expectancy, hopefully in 20 more decades, we'll be immortal.
I don't think I could benefit this medical progress 'coz I'm now 320 years old, but who knows, I keep on hoping.
I'm now back in june 14th 2003 and willing to change this world for a better one.
If you want my help, pls send me a message via the intersideral communication system.
Oops, I forgot that you still have the obsolete geostationary satellites.
OK then, let's meet at the bar of your choice, I can teleport to any location in the entire milky way.
LRRPS
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