Brits find a new nickname for the SA80

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Doesn't anyone in the European firearms industry call it a product recall rather than an upgrade?

The SA-80 didn't work in my Rogue Spear game either.:evil:

Maybe I am contrarian because I got to fire M-14s in the Navy, but perhaps these eggheads should go back to the future with something rugged, hard-hitting and accurate than continue on the path of lowest common denominator weenie rifles.

It seems only a matter of time before the .177 Magnum MR.

"The latest advance from Enfield is this bullpup configured .177 Magnum Machine Rifle. Since no one in Britain has much firearms experience pre-Service, we have created the battle implement of the Sheeple. The magazine of the SA-2010 holds an astonishing one hundred projectiles traveling at 3500 fps. The 6gr .177 cup-nosed lead pellets are fired via super-duper compressed air. The resultant cartridge offers the state of the art in spray and pray tactical firing. No recoil. No aiming. No jamming, because the magazine is a sealed, one use, helical affair, with its own pressure cannister that ports directly into the weapon with a rubber "O" ring to keep out the sand that has stopped all of our previous efforts. This weapon is intended for use by troops with no combat experience and has been early adopted by the French Army, who are field testing it in bistros and cafes everywhere"
 
Do keep in mind most new designs don't work well at first. Be it guns, tanks, aircraft, ships. I recall the Orig M-16 had this problem with the selector being made out of some fiber material. In warm/moist enviroment it swelled and you could rotate to semi/full auto but gun would NOT fire. BUT back at camp where less humid/cooler it worked fine. I talked to guy who jumped in water till he found out why then fixed the problem. He had paperwork with his name on it about this.
I met a LEO who had it happen to himself and a few others their first ambush. He picked up a AK and to this day refuses to use a AR type rifle. He has a Mini 14 folding stock instead.
IMO they should pull them from combat units and issue a few to other areas (say 40% of weapons) and have them carry and SHOOT them after being in the field. Once some folks get confident they could offer them to troops. If problem keeps popping up then fix the darn thing.
 
The SA-80 couldn't have been adopted because of iwannacoolgun, because it doesn't look cool at all. You might be able to argue that point with the AUG, but never the SA-80.
 
El Tejon,

No doubt that the SA80 is a nonperforming dog that should've been 86ed years ago.

But let's not kid ourselves: You've dissed the P90, the G36, the G11, the FA-MAS, the FAL, the G3, the AUG, the Galil, the FNC, and (for all I know) the M14 and the AK on the basis of "Iwannacoolgunvirus".

Tell the truth: "Iwannacoolgunvirus" really translates out to "any gun other than the AR that El T has decided upon", nicht wahr? ;)

I guess Colt/FN's eu certs and Stoner's profits are outside the Iwannacoolgunvirus realm, eh? :D
 
Tamara, what? WTH? What the heck are you talking about? The AR is the epitome of the "Iwannacoolgun" virus!!!

How many young men died because computer whiz kids wanted that cool looking gun and testing was not done in Vietnam??? Very similar to the L85 if you ask me.
 
After how long a debugging process? Thanks in part to more knowledgable gun experts in Congress (whew, thank goodness for them).:D To be repeated all over again with the M4 so everyone can be super tactical cool--geez, what's next? Give everyone a dark hued jaunty beret?

The SA80 is not the same (no doubt Parliment is once again napping). It's buggy, which means young men will be as well.

If we want to be super tactical cool in replacing the Big Army's 16s, let's don't repeat history.
 
Guess they'll have to equip the soldiers with a roll of duct tape to keep the sand out of the SA80. :p
The brits better be good at shooting. One shot, and then pick up the AK off of the dead iraqi...

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