Broken Glock

[NGIB]

Help me out here folks, how can perfection break???

 

[DENALI]

Hey there Doc, perhaps you can clear up some other questions of mine. You've refered to shooting 90g rounds, do you mean 90gr? If so where did you aquire them? I personally don't know of any factory loaded 90gr .357 Sig load, but then you learn something new every once in a while. If not, did you then reload them yourself?
P.S I've read further into your post's and you seem to think you were firing Speer lawman, and or WW Ranger ammunition. neither produces any ammo in your caliber in the 90gr weight! At the risk of sounding redundent I'd check into what you were running through your Glock........

 

[SDC]

What I'm curious about is how the cruciform trigger bar managed to bend in the manner you described; there's absolutely nothing pushing it in that direction to MAKE it bend like that, so I have to think the bending was caused by pounding the slide forward. Going through this in my mind, the only explanation I can think of would be that the trigger spring broke on your last shot, leaving the trigger in it's rearward position instead of allowing it to reset (you can normally reset it at this point simply by PULLING the trigger forward). As long as you didn't spring the rails by hammering the slide forward over the trigger bar, replacing any or all of the parts involved should be a 10-minute job by any local armourer. He should also do a complete check on the springs and sear engagement at the same time.

 

[doc2rn]

SDC I took it apart again and you are right, the spring on the trigger is broken in two and pushing the cross shaped piece up from the back. Which explains the sticking.
I looked at the box again on the Spear Lawman Ammo they are 125s not 90s. I did not shoot the rangers I still have all 50 of those. Now I am wondering which box I looked at to get 90 info off of. I have 3 types mixed in an ammo can I think they are American Eagle, Spear, and Winchester. All rounds are new FMJ ball ammo and all are 125s.:banghead:

 

[Beowolf1911]

Maybe you should invest in one of those fancy new metal pistols. Maybe one of those revolutionary new 1911's I hear they are state of the art. LOL I gotta say it is a bit glib to call the 9 parabellum lowly, I am not a particular fan but I bet there are a lot of men on the other side of the Styx that would take offence to that. As for your problem every manufacture has errors even though I am not a fan Glocks are known to do pretty well maybe you just got a defect I hear there customer service is great though.

 

[doc2rn]

Beo I have a MIM Colt 1911 circa 1956 and rated professionally at 99% she is the safe queen. I bought back my old S&W model 10 to carry today till my Glock gets fixed. I gotta say that 3" in a galco high rise OWB is easy on the hip. I am beginning to apreciate leather. I also thought everyone needs to keep at least one revo, right. Anyway I traded this same one in on the Glock and was beating myself up over it so I bought it back.

 

[Bullet]

doc2rn
Today at the range I was shooting 90g rds through my G32. On my 30th round the slide locked back, all the way back. After hitting it with the heal of my hand and it not budging I took it over to see Sarge. Sarge is a 6' 2" 275 lb well built fella. He smacked it a couple of times and it slid back forward. I took it apart to find the cross shaped plate attatched to the trigger on the lower reciever was bent upward.

SDC
What I'm curious about is how the cruciform trigger bar managed to bend in the manner you described; there's absolutely nothing pushing it in that direction to MAKE it bend like that, so I have to think the bending was caused by pounding the slide forward.

doc2rn
Looks like hitting your gun wasn’t the fix and caused more damage.

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[loop]

Find this thread disturbing. First, just looked up Glock 32s on Gunbroker.com and counted 25 for sale on the first page. Some for as low as $400. Why would it be someone can't find one?

First Glock I ever shot was a 32 (second was an 18) when the factory rep was demonstrating them to a group of Idaho LE reps. The 32 was not yet available at the time, but they were taking orders. It was my favorite Glock (although I've traded off all my Glocks at this point).

What really bothers me though, is how could you own a Glock 32 and refer to the caliber as 9X21? The two cartridges are not even similar. I admit if you aren't knowledgeable the myriad 9s (9X17, 9X18, 9X19, 9X21 and 9X23) can be confusing.
But none are bottlenecked cartridges. Plus the .357 Sig isn't marked as a 9 on the cartridge or the gun.
I am absolutely baffled that there could be any confusion between the .357 Sig and the 9.
As the Glock rep told me when I first fired the 32, the name .357 Sig was used to ELIMINATE confusion with all other 9s...

One thing is for certain though, if you put 9X21 ammo in a Glock and it discharged I would expect severe damage to the gun...

Oh, and you can get a variety of Sigs in .357 Sig. You can't get one in 9X21.

 

[Firepower!]

Not againg with Glock bashing band-weagon.

Pistol break, after all they are machines. But in your case I would have this Serge fella cough up a replacement G32- after I take him around the back for good hidding.

 

[wanderinwalker]

One of the local PDs uses Glock 32/33 in the .357 Sig caliber. I've talked to their instructor on the range, and he tells me they will break locking blocks from time to time, and they sometimes have problems breaking strikers (firing pins).

I'll gladly stick with my lowly 9mm Parabellum if these larger calibers cause this much havoc in some designs. Heck, my G-17 has only broken once, and the factory made it right no questions asked. (Frame rail broke around 7500 rounds; it is an E-series which is known to have this issue.)

 

[doc2rn]

Ok loop first, 9x21 is the size of the bullet. It has to be a little longer to fit in a necked 40 casing, so pressure can build behind the bullet to launch it. I was mistaken on the 90s I must have looked at the Corbon 9mm box which is blue instead of the blue Spear Lawman box also blue. Like I explained earlier, I thought that keeping it to bullet size would be similar to saying 5.56 & .223. Both mean the same they just have different tollerences. I did not have an extra $400-500 laying around. Sure I could have cashed in a CD but with the face of the economy, doesnt look good. Maybe I will with the bonus check. I am a full time college student, and single dad. It just wouldn't be right to spend money I am saving for my daughters education. My local Glock distributor called his suppliers and no one had one. I guess I could hire the local pawn shop as the FFL again and buy one on GB. I only paid $450 new so used at higher $$$ is just silly.

I could not move the broken trigger, tried that. Could not palm strike the slide forward, tried that. I would never punish a fried for doing what I asked him to do. He did the same thing I did with his palm. No one banged it on the floor etc..It just broke. That is what this thread is about. Like I stated earlier the broken spring is pushing up on the cruciform causing the bolt charging mechanism to lock it back.
I went and bought back the model 10 I traded in on it so I at least have something until I get it back. Not even a bad deal because he threw in a Galco holster

 

[FullEffect1911]

Things break, stuff happens. Glad to hear the Glock's problem was only a spring, shouldn't be tough to have it fixed up and ready to rock. Even Sigs get the occasional broken spring . I am also glad to hear you got your model 10 back. I love wheelies as much as i love my bottom feeders

 

[tbreed725]

i think you might be mistaken on the size of the bullet the 9 refers to the caliber in millimeters the 21 is the leingth of the case in millimeters. just like a 380 acp also known as 9x18 is 9 millimeters in caliber and 18 millimeters in leingth. so with the 9mm liuger 9x19 .

 

[newsmonster]

380acp = 9x17
9mm makarov = 9x18
9mmP = 9x19

 

[stevereno1]

Man, call Glock hq in smyrna Ga., and see if they can help you! They would be the people to talk to.

 

[Waywatcher]

Ummm.....

That little cross shaped plate attached to the trigger is supposed to be bent up. The bent up part is what holds the striker and it moves out of the way to release it.

If you really really think its broken then buy a new trigger--it comes with the cross shaped plate attached.

Sounds like just a broken trigger spring.

 

[Hoppy590]

wow even glock fanboys can turn a glock thread into a S Show. no others required.

if your has a problem,and you cant figure it out, take it to a smith.

dont get defensive when some one suggests something

 

[az-morgan]

It'll take about 20 minutes and $20.00 for you to replace the parts yourself. Inexpensive alternative to taking it to someone or needlessly sending it to Glock. If it doesn't work, then send it to the factory.

Az-Morgan