Broomhandle Mauser

[Nightcrawler]

What were the different versions of the C96 Mauser pistol? When were they produced?

I know there were 9x19mm versions, and 7.63x25mm versions. Some were select-fire. Some had detachable box mags, in 10 and 20 rounds.

Which was which was which?

Did a 9mm version with the detach box mags ever exist?

And any info on the production and history of the Chinese .45 Broomhandle would be appreciated, too.

And, of course, pictures.

 

[Apple a Day]

The Chinese made a select-fire version, called the Type 80, in 7.62 Tokarev caliber. It used 10- or 20-round detachable magazines which canted at a slight angle instead of the older, straight fixed magazines. It also sported a more comfortable grip than the old "broomhandle". You could mount a shoulder stock and/or a bayonet. Long barrel with a muzzle velocity of 470m/s. They were still in production in 1994 according to Jane's.

 

[mete]

The 9mm Mauser ( 9x25) was discontinued in 1914, these models were called the Export Model . You can find extensive info in "Textbook of Automatic Pistols" by Wilson and Hogg. In Russia the Bolsheviks liked it so that was called the Bolo-Mauser. There were spanish copies too.

 

[Peter M. Eick]

There was a 9mm chinese broom down at Fountain Firearms 281-561-8447 (ask for Oren or Sloan) with detachable mags a while back. I looked at it several times and even had Sloan break it down so I could see how to take it apart. It has 2 20 rnds and 1 30 rnd magazine. Finally I wimped because of concerns about weak steel and I did not want to eat the bolt if the bolt lock failed. This is a very common occurence with weak steel from my investigation and I expect that might really hurt and running all of my dental work.

 

[Jim Watson]

That is enough questions to fill a book.
The original, basic, and standard Mauser caliber was 7.62.
The 9x25 Export is said to have gone mostly to South America.
The 9mm P "Red Nine" was made as a substitute standard WW I German military pistol. There were also 7.62s in use, which is why the 9mm grip was marked to keep ammo requirements clear.

The detachable magazine came in with the 1932 Schnellfeuer Model 712 full auto in 7.62 only. There is such a thing as a Model 711 detachable magazine semiauto, but even the Blue Book says most that you will see are fakes, Schnells with the selector cuts welded up (and still illegal.)

There are Spanish copies and Chinese copies of most any combination of features you can imagine.

Then when the Communist Chinese unloaded their surplus guns on the American market, there got to be even more versions. Fed Ord bought up their Schnells, scrapped the full auto frames and made new semiauto frames to sell a fake 711 detachable magazine broom. I think some of those were rebored or rebarrelled to 9mm; so you can have a 9mm 20 shot if you can find one of them. Just don't pay an Oberndorf price.

CAUTION: A friend of mine had his shot-out Chinese Bolo rebored to 9mm. The barrel looks ok, but they did nothing to the magazine (One of those shops that don't want you to send in the lower, probably don't even have a FFL to work on a whole gun.) and feeding with the shorter round is not reliable. So think twice about altering a 7.62 for cheaper ammo.

They made up a number of other repros and imitation repros. That is, guns that look like they are repros of something that might have been made by Mauser, but probably never were.

 

[Wildalaska]

Im lucky enough to have snagged a copy of "System Mauser" off of Ebay (at about 1/3 the price of what Ive seen em in bookstores for)...altho dated its got pics of lots of real obscure models..if you have an qwuestion as to a specific model I can look it up...


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