Budget Firearms?
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I own a lot of guns from the inexpensive all the way up. The Hi-Point 9mm carbine is an excellent gun. It is ugly as sin, but it feeds everything I've tried in it and is more accurate and easier to shoot than my Kel-Tec Sub 2000, though no where near as 'cool".
"Gun Tests" is a magazine that tests guns that they buy off the shelf like the rest of us and take no advertising. In the new issue they test the Hi-Point C9 against a Bersa and chose the Hi-point as the better gun. They also tested the Hi-Point .40 carbine against 2 others including the Beretta Storm and the Hi-Point came in first again.
They have tested the other inexpensive guns in the same price range you are talking about and all of them were considered unacceptable. I would buy a used revolver over the Hi-points because I am experienced enough to probably pick a good one, but are you that experienced? Often a used gun is sold as is and if you get someone's lemon, you are stuck. The Hi-Points are new guns with an excellent, no questions asked warranty.
Take your wife to the store and have try to rack a Hi-Point 9, If she can't you've eliminated that gun. Revolvers are fine, but pulling a double action trigger through can be hard for someone with limited hand strength.
"Gun Tests" is a magazine that tests guns that they buy off the shelf like the rest of us and take no advertising. In the new issue they test the Hi-Point C9 against a Bersa and chose the Hi-point as the better gun. They also tested the Hi-Point .40 carbine against 2 others including the Beretta Storm and the Hi-Point came in first again.
They have tested the other inexpensive guns in the same price range you are talking about and all of them were considered unacceptable. I would buy a used revolver over the Hi-points because I am experienced enough to probably pick a good one, but are you that experienced? Often a used gun is sold as is and if you get someone's lemon, you are stuck. The Hi-Points are new guns with an excellent, no questions asked warranty.
Take your wife to the store and have try to rack a Hi-Point 9, If she can't you've eliminated that gun. Revolvers are fine, but pulling a double action trigger through can be hard for someone with limited hand strength.
45fanatic
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I have had a Hi-Point 9mm and found it reliable, accurate and relatively inexpensive to shoot. I think it's a great choice for the budget
rcellis
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What about these bersa thunders. Where are they made? Are they cheaper due to workmanship, extra weight, mechanical complications, maintenance problems?
I've seen them on-line several times - at first I couldn't get past how they looked.. now they are starting to grow on me. I do say that it looks like they have a lot of external mechanism that might get dirty and/or hang up on clothing and such.
Clint
I've seen them on-line several times - at first I couldn't get past how they looked.. now they are starting to grow on me. I do say that it looks like they have a lot of external mechanism that might get dirty and/or hang up on clothing and such.
Clint
Rotorflyr
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To answer your question directly, yes a Hi-Point will keep you safe til you can afford a better gun, that said, before buying it, take the wife to the store with you, let her feel it, let her work the slide and see for herself if it will work for her, otherwise it does you no good.
Personaly I would opt for a da/sa revolver in either .357 or .38, as unfortunatly people who suffer from ms don't get better, and most get worse (sadly some more quickly then others). With a revolver you have less worry about malfunctions, no worry about having to work a slide if your wife is having a particulary bad day, and it can be kept loaded at all times, so there is no worry about her having to slam a mag into it (if not kept "ready")
In the revo forum, there is an excellent thread on checking out used ones, and it can (help) keep you from buying a lemon. If for whatever reason you can't find a decent revolver, then I'd say purchase the Hi-Point, as a gun that goes "Bang" is better then no gun at all!
*edit* you might also see if you can find a used kel-tec as well.
Personaly I would opt for a da/sa revolver in either .357 or .38, as unfortunatly people who suffer from ms don't get better, and most get worse (sadly some more quickly then others). With a revolver you have less worry about malfunctions, no worry about having to work a slide if your wife is having a particulary bad day, and it can be kept loaded at all times, so there is no worry about her having to slam a mag into it (if not kept "ready")
In the revo forum, there is an excellent thread on checking out used ones, and it can (help) keep you from buying a lemon. If for whatever reason you can't find a decent revolver, then I'd say purchase the Hi-Point, as a gun that goes "Bang" is better then no gun at all!
*edit* you might also see if you can find a used kel-tec as well.
duncan
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Whatever you do, please consider not buy the Hi-Point handguns.
Why?
1. Cheap Materials. They are made form pot metal, minimally designed, oven baked-on finish like they buy their materials from Brownells. And you get what you pay for. If you are going to use this gun for many purposes, I can't see it taking thousands of rounds and especially a lot of the hotter self defense loads. Longevity is questionable.
there is a following here - many newer shooters, shooters on tight budgets, guys looking for just another gun to collect, or guys looking for a tackle box gun. Some outfitters apparently give them to their clients but if you investigate further, they give you the Hi-Point and carry something else for their own protection.
2. It is probably the number one brand of gun used against LEOs.
As a professional and in my private life, I support LEO and their agenices. I refuse to buy the same brand of gun used by thugs, criminals, burglars, and rapists:
http://www.wkyc.com/news/news_fullstory.asp?id=30483
3. Poor Legal Defense In Shooting Situation. On the other hand, if you ever do get involved in a justifable shooting where you rightfully shot and killed a burglar threatening to rape or kill your wife or children, from a defense standpoint, we can better defend you when you say used the same gun and ammo that my local, state or federal LEOs carry.
Carry the Hi-Point and the prosecution or the plaintiff's family will argue you are carrying a gun jsut like any other criminal. It's wrong but that's what the jury will see and perception can cost you your house, your marriage, and your entire savings.
4. They Have A Following. They do get some good reviews - but then again - so do many other dawg guns. They just won't publish the review if it's too harsh!
http://www.shootingtimes.com/handgun_reviews/hipoint_100605/index2.html
http://www.gunboards.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11811
http://www.defensereview.com/modules.php?name=Reviews&rop=showcontent&id=23
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=145186
Anyone looking for an inexpensive gun is better off with a Mak or a Kel tec or a used Kahr in the $300 and under range.
What Gun To Get?
In the $200 range, I would only get a Kel Tec or one of the imports like the Maks or Stars or a used revolver. As to the KTs, I carry the KT P-32 and had some QC issues with it as Accurate Plating thickly hard chromed my slide from the factory and KT QC let it pass. They replaced my slide and after my own fluff and buff 4K rounds of ball and JHP and even the WWII surplus ammo - reliable. And you have some huge ktog.org user groups to help you tighten it up.
OR
Even this is better than a Hi-Point:
Never discount a dog on its size. Ask dog trainers, some of the meanest defense dogs are the muffin-sized ones!
As a matter of crime prevention, any dog - even a little foo foo muffin dog can bark and scare off would-be prowlers or opportunists. My dog barks and I listen. Flashlight and handgun ready. a dog would buy you precisou time in the event someone is on your property or near your window. Stopping them before they get into the house is the key.
Save a life and get a friend. and you can just carry the pistol for CCW and additional HD. But the dog buys you additional time at a minimum.
But skip the el cheapo thug guns.
Proclaimed #1 Hi Point Basher
Why?
1. Cheap Materials. They are made form pot metal, minimally designed, oven baked-on finish like they buy their materials from Brownells. And you get what you pay for. If you are going to use this gun for many purposes, I can't see it taking thousands of rounds and especially a lot of the hotter self defense loads. Longevity is questionable.
there is a following here - many newer shooters, shooters on tight budgets, guys looking for just another gun to collect, or guys looking for a tackle box gun. Some outfitters apparently give them to their clients but if you investigate further, they give you the Hi-Point and carry something else for their own protection.
2. It is probably the number one brand of gun used against LEOs.
As a professional and in my private life, I support LEO and their agenices. I refuse to buy the same brand of gun used by thugs, criminals, burglars, and rapists:
http://www.wkyc.com/news/news_fullstory.asp?id=30483
3. Poor Legal Defense In Shooting Situation. On the other hand, if you ever do get involved in a justifable shooting where you rightfully shot and killed a burglar threatening to rape or kill your wife or children, from a defense standpoint, we can better defend you when you say used the same gun and ammo that my local, state or federal LEOs carry.
Carry the Hi-Point and the prosecution or the plaintiff's family will argue you are carrying a gun jsut like any other criminal. It's wrong but that's what the jury will see and perception can cost you your house, your marriage, and your entire savings.
4. They Have A Following. They do get some good reviews - but then again - so do many other dawg guns. They just won't publish the review if it's too harsh!
http://www.shootingtimes.com/handgun_reviews/hipoint_100605/index2.html
http://www.gunboards.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11811
http://www.defensereview.com/modules.php?name=Reviews&rop=showcontent&id=23
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=145186
Anyone looking for an inexpensive gun is better off with a Mak or a Kel tec or a used Kahr in the $300 and under range.
What Gun To Get?
In the $200 range, I would only get a Kel Tec or one of the imports like the Maks or Stars or a used revolver. As to the KTs, I carry the KT P-32 and had some QC issues with it as Accurate Plating thickly hard chromed my slide from the factory and KT QC let it pass. They replaced my slide and after my own fluff and buff 4K rounds of ball and JHP and even the WWII surplus ammo - reliable. And you have some huge ktog.org user groups to help you tighten it up.
OR
Even this is better than a Hi-Point:
Never discount a dog on its size. Ask dog trainers, some of the meanest defense dogs are the muffin-sized ones!
As a matter of crime prevention, any dog - even a little foo foo muffin dog can bark and scare off would-be prowlers or opportunists. My dog barks and I listen. Flashlight and handgun ready. a dog would buy you precisou time in the event someone is on your property or near your window. Stopping them before they get into the house is the key.
Save a life and get a friend. and you can just carry the pistol for CCW and additional HD. But the dog buys you additional time at a minimum.
But skip the el cheapo thug guns.
Proclaimed #1 Hi Point Basher
Javelin Man
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I was going to recommend the Hi-Point carbine, too, but a couple other posters beat me to it. It is easy to rack and with a short barrel, easy to use and hold for home defense. With the pistol grip, the left hand really isn't needed. The carbine has a much higher reputation than the pistols for reliability. If it's as good as my .45 Hi-Point, you'll be good to go. My 9mm Hi-Point carbine has never choked, either. My last failure of any gun was my S&W mod 36 revolver. It jammed and took a lot of work to convince it to turn, then it hasn't failed since.
Check out the Hi-Point 9mm or .40 carbine. If not, feel confident in getting a pistol. Make sure your wife can rake the slide before buying it, though.
Check out the Hi-Point 9mm or .40 carbine. If not, feel confident in getting a pistol. Make sure your wife can rake the slide before buying it, though.
rellascout
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Here is my final recommendation.
Get a used revolver.
Get a used revolver.
Star BM 9mm.
$160 -- inexpensive, but not CHEAP. A very well made pistol.
http://www.militarygunsupply.com/shop/item.asp?itemid=FISTBM
$160 -- inexpensive, but not CHEAP. A very well made pistol.
http://www.militarygunsupply.com/shop/item.asp?itemid=FISTBM
duncan
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See Taco Bell dawg - from Mexico!
Not mine _ I have a furry chick magnet dog - tall - waist high and 65 pounds but that little dog is cute and would make a fun pal.
Not mine _ I have a furry chick magnet dog - tall - waist high and 65 pounds but that little dog is cute and would make a fun pal.
CajunBass
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So taking a page from the anti-gunners, we'll blame the gun for what it's owners do with it? Since every brand of gun ever made has been used by a criminal at one time or another, that would pretty well limit your choices wouldn't it?
A Hi-Point is a decent handgun that will do the job you're asking it to do. My wife has arthritus in her hands, but she has no problem racking the slide. It's as accurate as I can shoot it and Ivory Snow reliable (99 44/100%). 9mm ammo is availabe most everywhere, and cheap enough to practice with. As someone suggested if you think you might get one, (or any gun for that matter) take your wife with you and make sure she can work it before you buy it.
A Makarov is a good choice, but ammo can be hard to find unless you order it off the internet, and I have read some internet posts that have indicated that it's hard to find there for some reason. Again the one I have is both accurate and reliable.
Used revolvers, Smith and Wesson, Taurus, or Ruger are a good choice too. I never seem to find them for the price you're talking about, but others insist they can be found. The lowest prices I've ever seen are in "The Shotgun News" and they run about $200.00. To that you have to add shipping about $20.00, and you have to figure on paying an FFL dealer his fee, which runs $15.00-35.00 (or more).
Bersa's are good too. My wife has one in 22 LR that is a little fineky about ammo, but with CCI mini mags shoots every time. We've been looking at them in 380 and 9mm the last week or two and they seem to run here for $230.00 to $300.00 depending on finish and cartridge.
Dogs make good alarms. Unless you get ones like my wife has that bark at only three things. Anything, everything, and nothing. Then you tend to ignore them all the time. A Jack Russel terrier will bark if the dust in the air moves.
chaim
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A couple suggestions (one probably less than orthodox, but whatever)...
With the hand problems your wife has a revolver is your best bet. They are very simple to use and train with, no levers to complicate matters and it is easy to tell if it is loaded. Most are quite reliable, and .38+P and up loadings make them good defensive guns. You should be able to find a good used .38spl for around $200 if you don't mind a very worn fiinish.
The Bersa isn't a bad gun, but .380 is a bit on the mild side (it is the minimum acceptable caliber for your primary defensive arm IMHO). Mine has been a good gun, and most owners seem pretty happy. They are reasonably accurate, quite reliable, and pretty well made. They are made in Argentina, a country with a pretty good gun making history. It is a little over your price range, but would only add a few weeks of saving to your time span.
For the Hi-Points I'd suggest the carbine. Get the 9mm and the off hand won't be that needed, your wife may be able to handle it (though with most long guns she may be OK so long as she can simply hold the off hand out and use it just to rest the gun upon her hand). The one I used to own was reliable, accurate, kind of fun, and it would make a workable defensive arm.
My unorthodox suggestion is get a .22lr rifle. At your price range there aren't very many quality guns available, however you can get a very good .22lr semi-auto rifle for $100-150 new. You can also buy a lot of ammo for low prices (100 rounds of WWB 9mm from Walmart will run you about $11, 50 rounds of cheap .38spl will run you about $8, cheap .45 or .40 will run you $10-12 for 50 rounds, while for $8-10 you can pick up "bricks" of 500-550 rounds of .22lr). More ammo=more practice. More practice means you will be better prepared should you need the gun for defense. A .22lr rifle can also be a ton of fun. Is it the best self-defense option, no. However, .22lr can certainly work, the rifle will make it a bit more effective, with practice (and with the low recoil) you should be able to put several rounds on small parts of the target quickly. Also, it is an inexpensive option, a good option, in your price range. It can be a stop gap for defense which will allow you to practice a lot while you save for something more capable. These guns don't recoil much, and some are pretty compact (like the Ruger 10/22) so your wife being unable to use her off hand for much might not hurt- she may find the gun quite usable anyway. Also, if you really don't trust .22lr, you can get a .22mag for a little more money and I don't think I'd be too worried about .22mag out of a long gun (I think it makes a reasonable home defense option for the recoil or price adverse).
If the rifle really won't work for your wife the Ruger MkII (used) or MkIII .22lr pistols can be had for reasonable prices.
With the hand problems your wife has a revolver is your best bet. They are very simple to use and train with, no levers to complicate matters and it is easy to tell if it is loaded. Most are quite reliable, and .38+P and up loadings make them good defensive guns. You should be able to find a good used .38spl for around $200 if you don't mind a very worn fiinish.
The Bersa isn't a bad gun, but .380 is a bit on the mild side (it is the minimum acceptable caliber for your primary defensive arm IMHO). Mine has been a good gun, and most owners seem pretty happy. They are reasonably accurate, quite reliable, and pretty well made. They are made in Argentina, a country with a pretty good gun making history. It is a little over your price range, but would only add a few weeks of saving to your time span.
For the Hi-Points I'd suggest the carbine. Get the 9mm and the off hand won't be that needed, your wife may be able to handle it (though with most long guns she may be OK so long as she can simply hold the off hand out and use it just to rest the gun upon her hand). The one I used to own was reliable, accurate, kind of fun, and it would make a workable defensive arm.
My unorthodox suggestion is get a .22lr rifle. At your price range there aren't very many quality guns available, however you can get a very good .22lr semi-auto rifle for $100-150 new. You can also buy a lot of ammo for low prices (100 rounds of WWB 9mm from Walmart will run you about $11, 50 rounds of cheap .38spl will run you about $8, cheap .45 or .40 will run you $10-12 for 50 rounds, while for $8-10 you can pick up "bricks" of 500-550 rounds of .22lr). More ammo=more practice. More practice means you will be better prepared should you need the gun for defense. A .22lr rifle can also be a ton of fun. Is it the best self-defense option, no. However, .22lr can certainly work, the rifle will make it a bit more effective, with practice (and with the low recoil) you should be able to put several rounds on small parts of the target quickly. Also, it is an inexpensive option, a good option, in your price range. It can be a stop gap for defense which will allow you to practice a lot while you save for something more capable. These guns don't recoil much, and some are pretty compact (like the Ruger 10/22) so your wife being unable to use her off hand for much might not hurt- she may find the gun quite usable anyway. Also, if you really don't trust .22lr, you can get a .22mag for a little more money and I don't think I'd be too worried about .22mag out of a long gun (I think it makes a reasonable home defense option for the recoil or price adverse).
If the rifle really won't work for your wife the Ruger MkII (used) or MkIII .22lr pistols can be had for reasonable prices.
Davo
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A used .38 or .357
It will meet your needs well. They can also sit in a drawer for years without attention. I dont recommend a new highpoint.
It will meet your needs well. They can also sit in a drawer for years without attention. I dont recommend a new highpoint.
I will say it one more time, Star BM 9mm. They can be had for less than $150 in used but still good shape and accuracy runs between better than average to outstanding. The light crisp SA is perfect for anyone and the slide is not hard to rack. The 9mm out of this all steel pistol has little recoil but delivers a serious amount of energy. 9mm is the cheapest centerfire round you can buy and it comes in every load you can think of.
The only drawback to the Star BM is that parts are not easy to find but they are available. Some few Star BMs will have ejection problem due to worn or weak extractor. It is a risk that is worth taking since even if you have to buy a new extractor, you will still have a better gun for the money than can be found anywhere else that I know of. When in good working order, Stars should be reliable as a pistol can be.
I have two and one of them is the most accurate 9mm I have ever owned. I have a target hanging up in my gun/computer room that shows a single 9mm sized hole for five shots at 10 yards. It shoots to exact POA and is deadly accurate. I have had a few FTE with this gun so it is for target work only. I think I have had about 3 FTE in about 1000rds so it is not bad but it is not what I would trust because I have guns that are 100% already. It is a sleeper that nobody would expect to be as accurate as it is. It is box stock and shoots better than 99.99% of guns you can buy.
The other one I have is not as accurate but it is still far better than most. It is 100% reliable though. I Piad $129 each for them when AIM was selling them two for $129. I had to pay $20 FFL and about $20 shipping so total cost was about $155 each. One of the best buys in the used handgun world IMHO.
The only drawback to the Star BM is that parts are not easy to find but they are available. Some few Star BMs will have ejection problem due to worn or weak extractor. It is a risk that is worth taking since even if you have to buy a new extractor, you will still have a better gun for the money than can be found anywhere else that I know of. When in good working order, Stars should be reliable as a pistol can be.
I have two and one of them is the most accurate 9mm I have ever owned. I have a target hanging up in my gun/computer room that shows a single 9mm sized hole for five shots at 10 yards. It shoots to exact POA and is deadly accurate. I have had a few FTE with this gun so it is for target work only. I think I have had about 3 FTE in about 1000rds so it is not bad but it is not what I would trust because I have guns that are 100% already. It is a sleeper that nobody would expect to be as accurate as it is. It is box stock and shoots better than 99.99% of guns you can buy.
The other one I have is not as accurate but it is still far better than most. It is 100% reliable though. I Piad $129 each for them when AIM was selling them two for $129. I had to pay $20 FFL and about $20 shipping so total cost was about $155 each. One of the best buys in the used handgun world IMHO.
GrOuNd_ZeRo
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I am going with the .40cal S&W Hi-Point for now, I got it on layaway at the local store and I will have this for a stop-gap type deal, after that I plan to get my 12ga.
I would love to own a Revolver for the wife but she is into the 9mm, she seems to be able to handle it.
As for criminal guns, it's the illegal Glock .40cals that are the MAIN problem, a drug dealer can EASILLY aquire one since they make so much money dealing.
I would love to own a Revolver for the wife but she is into the 9mm, she seems to be able to handle it.
As for criminal guns, it's the illegal Glock .40cals that are the MAIN problem, a drug dealer can EASILLY aquire one since they make so much money dealing.
USED REVOLVER PURCHASE THREAD
I believe this is the thread mentioned a few posts back. If not it's right on the money anyway.
http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=57816
I believe this is the thread mentioned a few posts back. If not it's right on the money anyway.
http://www.thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=57816
Rotorflyr
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G_Z
Just curious as to why you purchased a .40 when you say your wife is "into" the 9mm and seems to be able to handle it??
Also if she can handle a 9mm she can handle a .38 revolver for sure.
Which as I said before, given her condition a revolver would probably be her best bet, especialy if she doesn't plan on/can't practice often with it as it has a simple "manual of arms" (ie:a simple "point and click" interface!)
Not knocking your choice as I don't personaly feel there is anything wrong with a Hi-Point (though doubt I would ever buy one), just curious as to how you made your final decision?
flat....yep that was the thread
Just curious as to why you purchased a .40 when you say your wife is "into" the 9mm and seems to be able to handle it??
Also if she can handle a 9mm she can handle a .38 revolver for sure.
Which as I said before, given her condition a revolver would probably be her best bet, especialy if she doesn't plan on/can't practice often with it as it has a simple "manual of arms" (ie:a simple "point and click" interface!)
Not knocking your choice as I don't personaly feel there is anything wrong with a Hi-Point (though doubt I would ever buy one), just curious as to how you made your final decision?
flat....yep that was the thread
AlaskaErik
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Budget firearms
The term should be considered an oxymoron. Try to put a price tag on your life. Same for the wife and kids. Now, do you really want to skimp on the price of a pistol?
The term should be considered an oxymoron. Try to put a price tag on your life. Same for the wife and kids. Now, do you really want to skimp on the price of a pistol?
ugaarguy
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Easy there. The man is the sole bread winner with a wife who's got a disability - the Gov't not saying its "enough" of a disability to pay Social Security is another issue. He's been forthright with us and bluntly told us what he can afford to save from each paycheck toward the firearm. Actual owners here on THR like their Hi-Points and by all accounts they're good pistols for the money. He also stated this will be a stop gap until he gets a nicer weapon.
I'll have to argue with pocket pistol mantra that the 380 on you beats the 1911 in the trunk/glove box/house. For Ground_Zero the Hi Point in the hand beats the (insert trendy pistol here) on the wish list. As far as putting a price tag on your life I wouldn't have a problem staking my life on my S&W M&P revolver, purchased used for $200; my Kel-Tec P-3AT purchased new for $240; my Kel-Tec P-11, purchased used for $190 (sold when the P-3AT took its place as my go to pocket pistol). Also, I have a co worker who bought a Hi-Point when he was still an E-3 stationed in Alaska. He bought it the day after an attempted break in - it fit his budget for immediate purchase, 9mm ammo was cheap to assure that it worked, and he had a way to defend himself without wishing for something nicer.
Ground_Zero, I will echo a previous posters comment that you should see if the dealer will let you change that 40 S&W to 9mm. You'll get lower recoil that will be easier for your wife to handle, and cheaper & more available ammo for you to plink/practice with.
gandog56
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I would stay away from a Hippoint. The pistols are extremely heavy for their size, are hard to rack, and suffer constant malfunctions. With your price range I would shop around for a used revolver. You usually can't go wrong with a S&W, but I have on old Taurus 66 .357 that is the most accurate gun I own.
Davo
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I would argue that in a defensive pistol, reliability is the ultimate issue. Ive noticed that typically reliability and pistol price dont correlate. True cheaper pistols may jam more often, but thats not to say yours does. Many higher dollar guns jam frequently, and the owners still use them for defense. I guess its hard to swallow $1200 on a jam-o-matic.
Still if you bought a hipoint, and it did not function correctly, you are now basically left with a paperweight and back where you started but with less cash. Thats a gamble, and one that may cost your life.
If you havent made a purchase yet-Id recommend a used .357 or 38, or if thats not availible, the Makarov. Your wife will be better able to used the revolver, if its ever needed too. The mak is inexpensive, but not cheap. If you decide on another autoloader Id recommend making it a 9mm-ammo is cheap. Which ever gun you get, make sure it gets a good break in, and that you try some of your defensive ammo to make sure it runs well. In the scheme of things a pistol purchse is a small matter-as it will provide comfort and security for your entire life, which is really priceless. ( I realize right now thats not how it feels)
Still if you bought a hipoint, and it did not function correctly, you are now basically left with a paperweight and back where you started but with less cash. Thats a gamble, and one that may cost your life.
If you havent made a purchase yet-Id recommend a used .357 or 38, or if thats not availible, the Makarov. Your wife will be better able to used the revolver, if its ever needed too. The mak is inexpensive, but not cheap. If you decide on another autoloader Id recommend making it a 9mm-ammo is cheap. Which ever gun you get, make sure it gets a good break in, and that you try some of your defensive ammo to make sure it runs well. In the scheme of things a pistol purchse is a small matter-as it will provide comfort and security for your entire life, which is really priceless. ( I realize right now thats not how it feels)
fletcher
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Another for the Makarov. I got mine for $150, and it has never had a misfire/jam of any sort.
Perhaps an inexpensive Taurus revolver of some sort (don't know one off the top of my head) would also fit the bill.
Perhaps an inexpensive Taurus revolver of some sort (don't know one off the top of my head) would also fit the bill.
Whirlwind06
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If it doesn't work send back to Hi-point. They'll fix it. And probably throw in a extra mag for your trouble.
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