build a rig: new 270 bolt action options

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Leaky Waders

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Hi,

I'm presently overseas and am basically saving for a new rifle when I return.

I already know the caliber .270 winchester and the action - bolt. I'd like a new production rifle.

The only bolt action I have right now is a .223 browning a-bolt that I posted about a while back. It's a fun rifle to shoot and more accurate than I am.

Anyways, there seems to be a lot of options for 270's in bolt.

I'd like your guys recommendations on why you prefer one brand over another...I was virtually looking at savage, sako, winchester, remington, and browning. I'm sure there are others that people may have an opinion about.

Also, how would you scope your choice?

I don't really need to know the brand of scope that you would choose (but please add it if you feel so inclined) but more like 'I'd choose a winchester an FN mod 70 featherweight with talley rings and a 6x scope because I can shoot a male love bug in flight and leave the misses lovebug not realize that she was a widow until i'm gone...'

Thanks in advance for your expertise.

L.W.

Oh why a 270...because I want another (I have a BAR in 270)...I like the round and can use it for hunting everthing in the South...it's a pleasure to shoot...my friends shoot the same caliber so we always can share ammo...my sons can shoot it...I have relaoding dies and a set-up for it but still haven't used all of my factory ammo yet.
 
Honestly I have a Weatherby Mark V Deluxe manufactured in 1959 that I inherited from my dad and I love it. It shoots sub-MOA.

I have no idea if the same quality persists today, but if they still make them like they used to then it's worth the price. As old as it is the only thing wrong with it are a few scratches on the stock and that's it.
 
I'm gonna go over the wall a bit here; I say get a new marlin xl-7 for the rifle.
the more I handle them, the more I am impressed; dual pillar bedding with steel pillars. button rifled, with a savage type nut/lockup system. excellent bolt, with a adjustable trigger down to about 2 lbs. I say one today at an Academy, near Katy Tx., for 290!!!!!! that's right, a brand new centerfire rifle for 290 bucks. Amazing.
As for scopes, I am becoming more an more convinced, that for 250 total with tax or less, you cannot beat a Nikon or Pentax, and next I would throw in a top of the line Burris, with a reticle to match your caliber. But the Nikon and pentax glass, is just an example of fine Japanese glass making, or whoever the heeeel they get to make their glass, maybe it is German.
but back to the rifle, the more and more stories you read about these, and the dudes that have them, and how well they shoot, and how reliable they are; so far, I have not heard from anyone I know, nor read one anecqdotal comment on them, that is even the least bit negative, so far.
 
While we sell all the above mentioned brands, and then some... I will pass on, from our customers, remarks concerning the Marlin X series of rifles.

Most, if not all have associated the X with unsatisfactory accuracy.
While we have not had any returned for material or workmanship problems, our sister store has had several.

I personally have limited experience with the X series, only shooting several hundred rounds through 3 different ones.

I did not experience any problems with any of these rifles except terrible accuracy. 10 Shot groups exhibited 2"-2 1/2" groups at 100y from a sandbagged rested position, cooled barrel between shots, ect. It was not mount, rings or a scope condition.(30-06. 4 different brands of ammo. 150gr. and 180gr.)

The one XS rifle did manage 1 1/2" grouping shot under the same conditions.
(243. 2 different brands of ammo. 100gr.)

My opinion... direct your hard earned money elsewhere. For close to the same price as the X rifles, you may be able to purchase a Stevens 200 which has proved to be a fine rifle... for the money.

Hopes this was able to assist you with your decision.

:D
 
i'm personally partial to Sako, Steyr or Tikka...but it's just a euro-trash thing

i think the best buy on the market is the Stevens. my personal experience is with it's parent rifle the Savage, but if you don't need the extras of the Accu-Trigger/Stock, you can save some money.

the Savage is more accurate right out of the box than most other domestic bolt-action rifles. they cater to the accuraccy crowd in their offerings of different rifling twist and chamberings...doesn't affect your calibre choice. i also like that a barrel change is a DIY project
 
I'm a fan of the classics. For good reason, as they didn't get to be classics because they sucked.

To me the riflemans rifle will always be a a pre 64 Winchester M70 in .270 or 30/06.

A real pre 64 in .270 is going to set you back a few grand (if it is really nice) and if you've got that kind of $$$ why buy new... but I digress.

As I understand it FN has Winchester back up and running and they are producing the M70 Feather Weight "Classic" once again. I already have one of the Feather Weight Classics in .270 from when Winchester first re-introduced them back in the 90's, but if I were so inclined to have another .270, it would be at the top of my list. Mine is very accurate, capable of sub moa with Remington 130gr Core Lock for the first 3 shots.

If I couldn't find a new M70 Classic I would look hard at a CZ550. When I went shopping for a 30/06 I couldn't find a Winchester in my price range so I bought the CZ. It is a good rifle that didn't cost a fortune. It has CRF and a nice single set trigger. Fit and finsh is equal to my M70 Classic but the action is a tad bit stiffer. It shoots about 1.2 moa with the factory Federal Premium 180gr Nosler Partitioned. It would probally do better with something else but I like the Nosler Partitioned bullet, Federal loads it and the accuracy is sufficent for hunting.

As for Optics. I am a simple man. I like simple things but darned if optics haven't gotten complicated... and expensive for good ones. As much as I like the simplicity of a fixed power scope, all of my hunting rifles except one wear variable power optics. Mainly because they are the most available I guess.

A good quality 3X9X40 or 3.5X10X50 will cover about any shooting situation you could get yourself in. They have done well for me over the years. My Winchester wears a 3.5X10X50 Leupold VXIII and the CZ wears a 3X9X40 Leupold VXII. My SO's Remington 7400 in .270 wears a 3X9X40 Burris Fullfield II and IMO it is a nice optic for the money.

Good luck with that new rifle.
Will
 
Sounds like you have made your mind up and I see nothing wrong with your choice. A FN Winchester Featherweight With a Leupold 6X42 in Talley lightweights sounds great. I would change 2 things. If buying for me I would go 30-06 and would choose the 2.5-8X-36mm Leupold. Because I am more likely to get a shot at 30 yards than 300 and I like the FOV I get at the lower powers. But I certainly would not argue that the 270 or a fixed 6X scope is a bad choice.
 
I have a Winchester M70 Featherweight. Recently I started reloading. I can take the gun out to a quarter mile and knock down a 12*12 target all day long. As for the scope, if its strickly for hunting get a BDC recticle 3*9 or 4*12. Nikon or Leupold comes to mind. The BDC for hunters is what Mil-Dots are for snipers. Quit target aquisition with no adjustments. This is ideal for hunting since most shots are in a few second gap window. All my opinion though.
 
The Weatherby Vanguard's for $399 are also good deals! You can still find some from at Wal-Mart with the Tan Stock IMO it looks much better than the black.
 
I would lean towards a Browning or a Winchester, due to the great fit and finish. CZ also makes a nice bolt gun, but I don't believe they come in .270Win. :)
 
Hi...just giving some feedback.

I'm still not back from deployment. And, I've changed my mind a little on my rifle.

So, my wife has my new red and white boxxed featherweight in 7mm08 waiting for me when I get home.

I figured since i have a 270 already I might as well diversify and the 7mm08 seems like a 7x57 reincarnated.

I'm not sure on the scope now. Thinking of a lightweight 4x or maybe a 2-7.
 
Sounds like you have a nice turn bolt waiting for you...I would put a nice optic on that rifle, a Zeiss Conquest 2-7x (or a 3-9x) would suit it well and not cost a great deal. Congrats on the new rifle, good luck on the optics, and thank you for your service, Mav. :)
 
How about a 2.5-8x36, in the Leupold VX-III variety? Excellent scope! I currently have two of them. I also have a VX-III in 3.5-10x40, also excellent and a good choice if you expect your average shots to be a bit longer. Awesome scopes for low light conditions, IME.

For a little less $$, the VX-II is a nice scope as well. I currently have standard VX-IIs in 2-7x, 3-9x40, and two VX-II ultralights in 3-9x. Very nice scopes. Leupold scopes tend to be a bit lighter then the equivalent scope from the "competition."

I'm sure you'd be happy with a Zeiss or maybe a Nikon or Bushnell Elite or Burris as well, but I like the Leupolds!
 
"...because I want..." That'd be reason enough.
Pick the one you can afford. They're pretty much the same. Mind you, Savage rifles are very hard to beat for 'out-of-the-box' accuracy for the money.
"...How about a 2.5-8x36..." Yep. Plenty for a .270.
 
Leaky;

I've got many different scopes. One has the Nikon BDC reticle. Several of the others have mil-dot reticles. I'll only have the one BDC, and will replace that scope at some future point & go with a mil-dot. The problem with BDC is that it cannot address cross winds. If where you're going to hunt has wind, you'll have to deal with it. The mil-dot reticle can help you do that, whereas with the BDC you're back into "Kentucky windage" territory.

Several of my mil-dot scopes are Nikon's, and they're very good glass, although none of mine are the newer Monarch's. I also have a Zeiss Conquest 3.5-10X mil-dot that's simply outstanding, though pricier than the Nikon's. I'm currently having a custom left hand bolt 6.5 Swede being built. That gun will almost certainly be wearing another Zeiss mil-dot in Talley rings.

900F
 
I come from a Remington 700 family, so that would be the first and foremost answer to me. My dad and I both have 700s in .270. He's had his for about 30 years and I got mine last year, and in .270 because he reloads. Free ammo for me!

My favorite scopes out there right now are the Bushnell Banner series. I have a 3-9x40 on my 700 and a 4x32 on my Marlin 336.
 
First choice for me buying a .270 would be a Mod 70 Featherweight. If I could find a deal on a real pre-64, then great. That would be unlikely for me to find a deal I could actually afford. So next I'd find one made after 1993 or so. Make sure it has the real controlled round feed. If not that then I'd either get one of the new ones made in South Carolina, or find a used Remington Mountain Rifle with the DM, and a good walnut stock. Those are cool. [why oh why did Big Green do away with them?] After all that, if I couldn't find what I like, I'd go for a Tikka T3 Hunter. They shoot too darn good to overlook. If I were going for am economy rifle, I'd look at the Marlin XL7. Drawback there is the blind magazine. But I could live with it as long as it was lightweight, and shot at least MOA, which it should. As for glass I'd look at a Nikon Buckmaster 3-9x40.
 
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