"Build your own" party. KT Ordinance, Dillon, Montana

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Subject: Build Your Own Gun
Date: Monday 16 May 2005 10:28 am
From: Gary Marbut/MSSA/TOS/BIT <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]

Dear MSSA Friends,

KT Ordinance has moved to Dillon, Montana. ?KT makes "80%" guns, which you
may buy and finish for personal use (not for resale). These
finish-yourself guns are less expensive, and avoid all associated
government paperwork.

KT will be hosting a barbecue in mid-July for entertainment and to show you
how to finish the nearly-complete firearms they manufacture.

See below a JPFO release about this.

Below that is information from KT Ordinance about the barbecue they will be
hosting.

Best wishes,

Gary

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FROM JEWS FOR THE PRESERVATION OF FIREARMS OWNERSHIP
America's Aggressive Civil Rights Organization

May 13, 2005

JPFO ALERT: Build Your Own Gun, Save 10%!

Richard Patrick Celata is an old-fashioned Yankee toolmaker
who came into his profession the old-fashioned way: as an
apprentice under his father. A resident of Massachusetts,
he watched the erosion of the Bill of Rights and decided to
do something about it. Specifically, he decided to devote
his skills to guarantee the continuation of the Second
Amendment.

Through his company KT Ordnance, Celata now produces
incomplete (80% finished) frames made according to the
highest standards of repeatable CNC precision. Not only are
these frames built according to the numbers, but they are
easy for the average person to finish.

These frames are non-firearms; they are completely legal to
own and build, and anonymous as well (form 4473 need NOT be
filed). For regulations and more information about these
products, please visit their web page at
http://www.ktordnance.com or call (406) 834-3611 between
8am and 4pm MST.

As a special bonus to JPFO supporters, KT Ordnance will
give you 10% off AR-15 receivers and 1911'S -- just mention
JPFO when you order.* You don't even have to be a JPFO
member!

As reported in our May 11 alert
(http://www.jpfo.org/alert20050511.htm), the federal
government is sending up a red flag with the advent of a
national ID card. Obtaining and keeping firearms is going
to become very difficult, and even more so when your
firearms are registered or otherwise papered. Building your
own is an easy way to avoid these pitfalls, and federal law
says it's legal.

The days are numbered for gun ownership in America; now is
the time to learn to produce your own!

- The Liberty Crew

* Special note: JPFO is not in the firearms business, nor
do we receive any compensation from KT Ordnance for sales,
referrals, or anything else. Customers must deal directly
with KT Ordnance for all aspects of their purchase! Please
visit http://www.ktordnance.com for more information.

======================

Barbecue at KT Ordinance


Where: 382 Adams Lane, Dillon. From Missoula, take 15 South to 278, go 6.9
(you will see a sign to Argenta) miles turn left first building on right.
you can't miss it.

Date: July 15-18 08:00 till 20:00

What will you do: We have a 400 yard range on sight. We will be building
AR-15's, 1911's and Sig 228's.
Please purchase frames in advance www.ktordnance.com You will need a parts
kit if you would like to assemble and test fire.
There will be a vender here selling parts kits, but not sure how many he
will have on hand.

Why: This is good CLEAN family fun, NO Alcohol. And yes the ATF will be
here, under cover of course.

Who: KT Ordnance (me) is putting this on. We will have Elk steaks and tips
to grill, bring other food too if you like.
Sort of like a picnic. This is for two reasons, one, to let people who do
not have the skill or equipment to do it. Second, to introduce people to the
80% market and how and why you can do this legally.

We have people fly in from all over the Country for this (last year it was
in New Hampshire) Would like to know about how many may come, as we can only
built so many in a day. First come first served is the rule.

Please call if you need more.
Rick
(406) 834-3611
 
"The days of gun ownership will be over" they would have to pull mine from my cold dead hand. :)
 
sounds like fun, but... maybe I'm missing something. Are the 80% receivers actually $200 or did I misread that? isn't that like, more than twice the going rate for completed "stripped lowers"? is the premium for not having to fill out a 4473?
 
They're made from billets of aluminum - compare the price to a nice billet aluminum lower, they're cheaper. :)
 
educate me: what is a "billet of aluminum" ?

do any mfgs I would recognize (colt, bushy, les baer, etc) use "billets of aluminum"?
 
A billet is a big chunk of aluminum. Most manufacturers (Bushy, Colt, etc) take said big chunk, and using machines scrape off material until you're left with a lower. There are other ways, but that's a different story, and for different materials.
 
A billet receiver is made from a solid block of aluminum, steel, whatever. A forged receiver starts life as a casting or plate, and over a series of dies, has the snot beaten out of it and is thereby made into a finished part.

Forged parts can be harder and more durable. Billet parts will tend to have fewer internal stresses, and greater consistancy of material (no odd little lumps). Billet material is easier to come by, and a manufacturing/assembly line is easier to start up. Forged parts require higher start-up costs for the machinery and dies, but will produce cheaper parts than billet, IF you make enough of them.
 
CRAP

I was thinking about doing this, but of course it conflicts with something else I also want to do.
I don't work a conventional 9-5 Monday-Friday schedule and it frustrates the crap out of me that everything is held on a weekend: especially when everything I want to do is on the SAME weekend.
I want to shoot a rifle match this same weekend and another one the next weekend. One is in Wyoming and the other in Utah. If this freaken class could was held during the week, this would have been my vacation. :banghead:
 
Hey 444 - if you complain about it a little more, maybe it'll work out! :neener:

j/k, I know how you feel. I'm missing 3 major events due to out of country travel that can't be rescheduled. One of those is getting the permanent job I've always wanted...hey, sacrifices must be made in the name of....stuff? :uhoh:
 
I wonder what would happen if I showed up in the middle of the week ? I wonder if they would take an hour and help me finish my 80% reciever that I bought from them ?
I guess I need to ask them.
 
"Hey 444 - if you complain about it a little more, maybe it'll work out!"

It did. If you go to their web page, they are having TWO of these BBQs. The one mentioned here and another one on August 19-22.
I will be there building two AR10s
 
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