Bullet data terminal performance compilation

[Captcurt]

I have used 4 different guns this year. Took a doe with a 243 and 95gr Silver BT at 30 yards. Shot in the white throat patch. Had a tennis ball sized hole.

Another doe took a 143 ELD-X from my Creedmoor at a range of 275. Hit low on the shoulder she ran 30 feet and crashed. Lungs and heart were shredded.

My biggest buck came in at 25 yards quartering to me. A 250gr Barnes over 90grs of FF took him on the point of the shoulder, blew a 3" gash through the ribs, traveled through the paunch and exited at the flank leaving a 1 1/2" hole. The deer traveled 100 yards with no blood trail even though the chest was full. The grass from the paunch had spilled into the abdomen and plugged the exit hole.

Then comes the 300 WSM. I went to a 150gr Accubond this year with 66grs of IMR-4350. One doe was 213 yards. Hit through the heart she went 30 yards with a blood trail that a blind man could follow. The exit was 3" behind the off leg and was about 1 1/2" in diameter. Total devastation in the chest. Even separated some of the ribs.

The Bugly Buck was about 100 yards and was hit with the Accubond from the 300. Entrance was 3 inches behind the shoulder and exited at the last rib. Bugly went 20 yards and was a mess to field dress. I was just glad that he fell by the creek.

 

[horsey300]

I have used 4 different guns this year. Took a doe with a 243 and 95gr Silver BT at 30 yards. Shot in the white throat patch. Had a tennis ball sized hole.

Another doe took a 143 ELD-X from my Creedmoor at a range of 275. Hit low on the shoulder she ran 30 feet and crashed. Lungs and heart were shredded.

My biggest buck came in at 25 yards quartering to me. A 250gr Barnes over 90grs of FF took him on the point of the shoulder, blew a 3" gash through the ribs, traveled through the paunch and exited at the flank leaving a 1 1/2" hole. The deer traveled 100 yards with no blood trail even though the chest was full. The grass from the paunch had spilled into the abdomen and plugged the exit hole.

Then comes the 300 WSM. I went to a 150gr Accubond this year with 66grs of IMR-4350. One doe was 213 yards. Hit through the heart she went 30 yards with a blood trail that a blind man could follow. The exit was 3" behind the off leg and was about 1 1/2" in diameter. Total devastation in the chest. Even separated some of the ribs.

The Bugly Buck was about 100 yards and was hit with the Accubond from the 300. Entrance was 3 inches behind the shoulder and exited at the last rib. Bugly went 20 yards and was a mess to field dress. I was just glad that he fell by the creek.

Thank you which caliber was the 250 gr Barnes and were you able to recover the eldx?

 

[horsey300]

Ok. Two deer in the last two days.
Marlin 1894
44Mag
240gr Sierra JHC
22.5gr H-110

First doe. 92lbs dressed. Quartering towards at 50 yards. Bullet entered left lower scapula, broke the “handle”, turned the top 1/4 of the heart to mush, and exited mid opposing rib cage. Broke 3 ribs.No recovery (obviously).

Second doe. 80lbs dressed. Broadside at 40 yards. “High shoulder” shot. Through and through. Nothing special. Just boring, proven, performance.

How long have you been using the jhc? I've been looking hard at them for quite awhile now....and thank you for the input, this is going to be a fun winter!

 

[BigBore44]

How long have you been using the jhc? I've been looking hard at them for quite awhile now....and thank you for the input, this is going to be a fun winter!

Probably 3-4 years. That’s my best performing load in 44mag. I’m actually going to try some of the 240gr FP’s and see if they’re any better. But I’m not really sure how they could be.

 

[Captcurt]

Thank you which caliber was the 250 gr Barnes and were you able to recover the eldx?

The Barnes was a 45 cal shot in a Ruger 77/50 inline. It traveled diagonally thru the buck with about 24" of penetration. The ELD-X did a pretty good job of mushing the lungs and heart. The blood trail was impressive.

I haven't recovered a bullet in years. The last one was a 110gr Accubond out of a 257 Weatherby at a range of maybe 40 yards. Took a doe on the shoulder as she quartered to me. Split the scapula in half, popped a 1 1/2"X4" hole in the ribs, traveled thru the paunch and lodged against the pelvis. Perfect mushroom and weighed 67grs. If a bullet was going to pieces it should have been that one at 3400+ FPS.

 

[Picher]

Thank you very much for the extra tidbit!!!

I know it's been some time since that hunt, but especially on the first shot, (130lb wt estimate) would you say that there was a good 16-20" of penetration including shoulder bones? 3200+/- chronograph?(if not, I can extrapolate to within 50fps if you'll tell me which powder and charge weight and bbl length) thank you very very much for your contributions thus far as well. If the information is not easily obtainable, that's quite alright, I understand. Also, 200+ yds, would 250 be a fair estimate?

Muzzle Velocity was 3,265 (Chrono). Deer may have been 16" wide. including shoulder.

 

[Picher]

This week, my son-in-law shot a 139 lb. whitetail buck with the 80 grain .243 GMX, at 250 yards, using the 3,265 fps load. He hit back in the rib cage, so it went through lungs and ribs. The deer went about 40 yards and went down, but it took a finishing shot in the neck to kill it. (He was told to keep shots under 200 yards and to aim for the shoulder, due to the narrow road and toughness of the bullet, but said he didn't have time to make that shot.) There was little blood or hair and difficult to see the entrance or exit wounds from the first shot. Note that I probably won't use GMX bullets for deer in the future.

 

[Picher]

Absolutely agree! With either the Barnes or accubond load, do you have figures for inches of penetration(including which bones were hit)? Actual distance for impact? Recovered bullet weights?

No, I don't have actual figures for penetration, but believe it was full width of the rib cage or shoulders for the Barnes. We didn't notice an exit wound on the moose and no ribs were hit on entry. We didn't gut the moose on-site because it was getting so hot (85*f), and there were hundreds of flies on it, so we loaded it on the trailer, packed it in ice, covered it with tarps, and took it to the processor immediately, where it was gutted immediately, but I failed to check the wound. We were just happy to have gotten the animal to the cooler.

 

[Tinybob]

My daughter (6years) got a nubbin today with my M1 and one of my hand crafted rounds!

It ended up being a tracking job, but still awesome!


This charge is below recommended starting load, but the boolit is seated very deep. Fully functional, accurate, and deadly. Downside is it penetrates like an FMJ. Straight through a rib on entry, clipped both lungs, and through a rib on exit. Entry was a 30 caliber hole, exit was about an inch. Total of about 8" penetration. No bullet recovery, no idea on velocity. Range of about 65yds. It ran about 75yds and laid down.
Won't use this one again because of failure to produce a timely kill.

I had to finish the deer off with my pistol.

When we were walking up to the deer it got up, and I made a quick shot to put it down. Entry was through right back strap, 1.5" of two vertebrae gone, through gut, through rib on left side, stuck in flap of skin at exit. Range of about 10yds, DRT. Total penetration about 20". No idea of velocity. Exit was about 1.5".

Bullet retained about 98% mass.

I am surprised how little meat damage happened. Only lost a handful of meat.

 

[wombat13]

165 gr TSX out of .300WM (don’t have MV but I’m guessing about 3100 fps) through and through in a large porcupine about 20 yards up a tree. Did not recover the bullet but considering the exit wound was about half the size of the porky’s torso, I’d say the bullet expanded well.

This deer season is off to a slow start. Haven’t had a shot yet.

 

[Duster340]

Hey folks, I think this a a great idea! Nothing like real world results on real world animals. Don't have a ton to contribute, but I'll do my best!

Small 90-100 lbs doe, 30 yards shot from tree stand.

303 British
150 gr PRVI SPBT
43.5 grains IMR 4895
Est velocity 2300 fps (17.25" barrel)

1/4ing toward me, bullet entered top right side of spine exiting through left shoulder. Exit wound approximate size of a quarter. Instant kill. Significant internal damage.

Hoping for success in the bonus Xmas week antleress season. Will post results if I'm fortunate to have a shot present itself.

Be well all.

 

[Glockula]

The last projectile I recovered was a Nosler 130 ballistic tip in Approximately 2007. I took a head on shot on a 9 point with my .270 Winchester at 115 yards. The bullet entered .5 inches right of the trachea and went on to penetrate 15 inches. 6 of that banana peeled the spine right down the center. I recovered the bullet in between the shoulders dead center of the spine. Im sure it would have gone a lot further if it had not hit all that bone. At least 10 other deer were all broad side pass through shots with this combo. This was before I used hand loads. I bought loaded Federal CHP 2 ammunition. Velocity was listed at 3000 fps at the muzzle. Probably close. The buck never took a step. Still have the rack but not the projectile. The retained weight of the projectile was 87 grains and the jacket did not separate from the lead core.

 

[horsey300]

The last projectile I recovered was a Nosler 130 ballistic tip in Approximately 2007. I took a head on shot on a 9 point with my .270 Winchester at 115 yards. The bullet entered .5 inches right of the trachea and went on to penetrate 15 inches. 6 of that banana peeled the spine right down the center. I recovered the bullet in between the shoulders dead center of the spine. Im sure it would have gone a lot further if it had not hit all that bone. At least 10 other deer were all broad side pass through shots with this combo. This was before I used hand loads. I bought loaded Federal CHP 2 ammunition. Velocity was listed at 3000 fps at the muzzle. Probably close. The buck never took a step. Still have the rack but not the projectile. The retained weight of the projectile was 87 grains and the jacket did not separate from the lead core.

Hey folks, I think this a a great idea! Nothing like real world results on real world animals. Don't have a ton to contribute, but I'll do my best!

Small 90-100 lbs doe, 30 yards shot from tree stand.

303 British
150 gr PRVI SPBT
43.5 grains IMR 4895
Est velocity 2300 fps (17.25" barrel)

1/4ing toward me, bullet entered top right side of spine exiting through left shoulder. Exit wound approximate size of a quarter. Instant kill. Significant internal damage.

Hoping for success in the bonus Xmas week antleress season. Will post results if I'm fortunate to have a shot present itself.

Be well all.

Thank you all very much for the contributions! This is very helpful!
@Duster340 I'll calculate that mv at 2470 (it's gonna be real close, mv with a 24" bbl with that load is 2670, minus 25/inch)

 

[horsey300]

165 gr TSX out of .300WM (don’t have MV but I’m guessing about 3100 fps) through and through in a large porcupine about 20 yards up a tree. Did not recover the bullet but considering the exit wound was about half the size of the porky’s torso, I’d say the bullet expanded well.

This deer season is off to a slow start. Haven’t had a shot yet.

Bwahahahaaaa! I perforated porky with my 300 one time, that's not bullet expansion, that's velocity vortex

 

[GAF]

The only thing I have leaned so far from this tread is that with proper shot placement you will kill a deer regardless of the bullet used and I already knew that. I have been using the non fancy Remington Core Lokt ammo in .308 and 30 06 soft points for the past 11 years and all of the deer shot with it have died within 60 yards of where they were shot.

So far this is all anecdotal evidence. Lets get scientific.

 

[horsey300]

The only thing I have leaned so far from this tread is that with proper shot placement you will kill a deer regardless of the bullet used and I already knew that. I have been using the non fancy Remington Core Lokt ammo in .308 and 30 06 soft points for the past 11 years and all of the deer shot with it have died within 60 yards of where they were shot.

So far this is all anecdotal evidence. Lets get scientific.

Yes let's, please share how many inches of tissue and/or bone you penetrated, whether you recovered any bullets and what they weighed, the weight of each projectile before firing, and either impact velocity or mv and yardage. With enough USEFUL information I might even be able to formulate a standard.

 

[horsey300]

My daughter (6years) got a nubbin today with my M1 and one of my hand crafted rounds!

It ended up being a tracking job, but still awesome!

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This charge is below recommended starting load, but the boolit is seated very deep. Fully functional, accurate, and deadly. Downside is it penetrates like an FMJ. Straight through a rib on entry, clipped both lungs, and through a rib on exit. Entry was a 30 caliber hole, exit was about an inch. Total of about 8" penetration. No bullet recovery, no idea on velocity. Range of about 65yds. It ran about 75yds and laid down.
Won't use this one again because of failure to produce a timely kill.

I had to finish the deer off with my pistol.
View attachment 769137
When we were walking up to the deer it got up, and I made a quick shot to put it down. Entry was through right back strap, 1.5" of two vertebrae gone, through gut, through rib on left side, stuck in flap of skin at exit. Range of about 10yds, DRT. Total penetration about 20". No idea of velocity. Exit was about 1.5".
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Bullet retained about 98% mass.

I am surprised how little meat damage happened. Only lost a handful of meat.

What pistol?

 

[Tinybob]

What pistol?

Ruger Blackhawk 357 Magnum 6.5" BBL.

 

[GAF]

Horsey300,

I figure that shot placement is a lot more important than what bullet you use.
You are absolutely right ! I have no scientific data to add to this discussion either so I will stay out of it.

 

[627PCFan]

Hornady 300gn MAG .45, Front chest shot on a white tail at 75 yards, impact velocity 1685. 25 inches of penetration, bullet recovered resting on the diaphragm during field dressing. Ill get you weight retention numbers tonight. DRT

140gn NBT, 7mm Rem, 2995fps ave, 64.5gn IMR 4831 set to max mag length, no bullets recovered, no bullets exited. 6 lung shots, 1 neck shot. All ran no more than 25 yards except the Neck shot, DRT.

175gn Hornady Interlock, 2550fps ave, impact velocity 2300fps, 75 yards on a fawn with a broken leg. .284 going on the rib cage, completely blew out the rib cage on the other side. Horrible sight but it was a mercy kill and that load was worked up for a pig hunt and the only ammo I had available at the time.