Bullet questions for Uberti El Patron / cattleman?

[Blueboost]

I have winchester superX In my ammo supply I pickup for range duty with the El Patron. They seem to be the most available reasonably priced ammo I have found. I was looking for something with a FMJ and came across these (link below). They are also 255 grain. The description reads they are slightly more powerful than cowboy action rounds. I am confused. Are the basic winchester lead superX 255gr bullets not "cowboy loads"? I thought that grain was fine for the Uberti.

https://precisiononeammunition.com/product/45-long-colt-255gr-fmj/

 

[ontarget]

255s are fine. "Cowboy" loads are not as powerful as standard loads, but plenty good for range fodder.
I handload for mine and use the same 230gn RNL bullets that I load for my 1911s.
The El Patron still shoots to POA and the 1911s like them too so it's a win all the way around.

 

[Reinz]

Welcome to the forum Blueboost.

As long as the ammo is not marked “for Ruger pistols only”, you are fine.

 

[45 Dragoon]

As per Brian Pearce article in Handloader magazine (#337), you're good for +p loads in that revolver. Congrats on getting an Uberti!!

Mike

 

[Riomouse911]

Very nice, you will like your Uberti. I had a Uberti Cattleman 4 5/8” .45 Colt years ago, I gave it to a friend when he retired and moved to Idaho.

“Cowboy loads” are usually low-powered, lead bullet loads that are directed towards Cowboy Action Shooting. (I did this back in the 1990’s.) That shooting discipline does have a low-power minimum of 400 fps/power factor of 60, as you need enough to knock over a pepper popper on some stages. (There is a maximum of 1,000 fps, to avoid target damage and excess splatter from steel targets.)

Guys like lower recoil to stay on target at speed, so these lighter than standard target loads got that nickname.

Most factory .45 Colt will be safe in your Uberti, including the 255 gr lead loads and most others. There are some loads that are not safe for the Uberti, as it is a clone of the old Colt with the same limitations. These will be marked +P (more pressure) or “Ruger only”, as those guns are much sturdier than the Colt/Uberti design. I would not use these higher powered rounds in your Uberti, as it can prematurely wear or damage the gun, or possibly injure the shooter if the gun itself fails and bursts.



All of these lead bullet loads are fine in your revolver. (Ignore the price tags, these boxes are pretty old. Expect to pay up to $45 bucks a box/50 now. )

Let us know how it shoots when you get a chance.

Stay safe.

 

[45 Dragoon]

As per Brian Pearce article in Handloader magazine (#337), you're good for +p loads in that revolver. Congrats on getting an Uberti!!

Mike

Uberti frame is stronger cylinder is larger . . .

 

[Pat Riot]

I find it annoying that “Cowboy” loads are typically equated with low powered wimpy loads. Completely “uncowboy” in my view, but I digress.

As long as the ammo meets SAAMI standards you should be just fine. According to the website you posted that 255 grain ammo is loaded to 830 fps. Definitely within SAAMI stds.

 

[.45Coltguy]

Very nice, you will like your Uberti. I had a Uberti Cattleman 4 5/8” .45 Colt years ago, I gave it to a friend when he retired and moved to Idaho.

“Cowboy loads” are usually low-powered, lead bullet loads that are directed towards Cowboy Action Shooting. (I did this back in the 1990’s.) That shooting discipline does have a low-power minimum of 400 fps/power factor of 60, as you need enough to knock over a pepper popper on some stages. (There is a maximum of 1,000 fps, to avoid target damage and excess splatter from steel targets.)

Guys like lower recoil to stay on target at speed, so these lighter than standard target loads got that nickname.

Most factory .45 Colt will be safe in your Uberti, including the 255 gr lead loads and most others. There are some loads that are not safe for the Uberti, as it is a clone of the old Colt with the same limitations. These will be marked +P (more pressure) or “Ruger only”, as those guns are much sturdier than the Colt/Uberti design. I would not use these higher powered rounds in your Uberti, as it can prematurely wear or damage the gun, or possibly injure the shooter if the gun itself fails and bursts.

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All of these lead bullet loads are fine in your revolver. (Ignore the price tags, these boxes are pretty old. Expect to pay up to $45 bucks a box/50 now. )

Let us know how it shoots when you get a chance.

Stay safe.

Man, just seeing those Remington rounds from Big 5 is a throw back. Ahh, the days.

 

[ArchAngelCD]

I'm a big fan of the 250/255gr SWC bullet cor the 45 Colt. The shoulder of the bullet does all the cutting if used on varmints and it's plenty powerful enough to do anything that needs getting done. (at ~850 fps)

 

[halfmoonclip]

Even 'punkin roller' loads have plenty of oomph. I have dangling bowling pins at camp, and my cowboy loads knock the living snot out of them.
For the OP, the price of .45 Colt is reason enough to go to handloading. Nines are cheap enough right now to not bother; not so the Colts.
Moon