Uberti El Patron Competition

[Hondo 60]

Does anyone have one?

I know lots of us have a Uberti (including me) & their quality is very good.

But what about the El Patron?
Especially those with the modified/lowered hammer spur?

Thanks

http://www.uberti.com/1873-cattleman-el-patron-competition-revolver

 

[RealGun]

I have a step fancier in the El Patron Belleza with engraved cylinder. I need to get some pictures. Here are some nice stock photos.

Does not have the lowered hammer spur, sorry. I don't do any fast action shooting.

 

[jstert]

uberti vs ruger?

new here. i like ruger single action 22 convertables and am looking at adding a 45lc single action. i dont mind used rugers as they are solid, but how does an uberti or other brand large caliber single compare to a ruger? im not a cowboy action shooter who puts 1000s of rounds downrange annually, more of a plinker. thanks for your advice.

 

[Hondo 60]

Stainless doesn't grab me.

I like the blue steel & wood.
I'd really like it if they offered it with a brass backstrap & trigger guard.
I have a 5.5" in that configuration & would like it to match.

Oh well, I guess you can't have everything.

 

[Hondo 60]

Uberti matches the original Colt Peacemaker explicitly.
The steel is modern, but in size & shape etc it's a Peacemaker clone.
Parts are interchangeable

Rugers are built like tanks.
In the reloading area there are "Ruger only loads" that exceed what you'd want to fire in any other gun.
Rugers also have a "transfer bar" with the firing pin in the frame & not on the hammer.
This makes it safer to carry all 6 chambers full.

I prefer the Uberti 1873 Cattleman series because it EXACTLY matches the original Colt.
This one has the firing pin on the hammer - like the original.
Almost everyone carries it with only 5 rds. (the chamber under the hammer is empty)
That way if it's dropped it can't go off.

 

[BCRider]

Just a niggling point about the "Ruger only loads". The used of the over pressure loads does not apply to ALL Rugers. The small frame New Vaqueros are not OK with them. And I believe that at least some of the Convertable models also use the smaller and lighter frame.

The Super Blackhawk is the larger frame and OK for these hotter loads as are the old model Vaqueros that use the same frame but with fixed sights instead of the SBH's adjustable sights. And whichever other Ruger revolvers that use the same larger frame are obviously OK to use with the hot loads.

 

[RealGun]

Just a niggling point about the "Ruger only loads". The used of the over pressure loads does not apply to ALL Rugers. The small frame New Vaqueros are not OK with them. And I believe that at least some of the Convertable models also use the smaller and lighter frame.

The Super Blackhawk is the larger frame and OK for these hotter loads as are the old model Vaqueros that use the same frame but with fixed sights instead of the SBH's adjustable sights. And whichever other Ruger revolvers that use the same larger frame are obviously OK to use with the hot loads.

I use the information that the Uberti handles the standard 14k max psi load, while the Vaquero is rated to handle the "middle tier" loads up to 20k psi. The Blackhawks and Redhawks handle the 45 Colt max of 32k psi. I have examples of all of these and can attest to the ability of the guns to suit these categories.

Given all that, for first time out the Vaquero could be just the ticket for a reloader. Otherwise, about all the ammo you will commonly find will suit the Uberti ratings.

 

[45 Dragoon]

I've had a .45 Colt El Patron Competition (5 1/2") since they came out. I like the lowered and wider hammer spur, it's easy to find in a hurry. It's my regular carry gun and I have a .45acp cylinder for it so . . . it's convertible.
The first thing I did was take the wire springs out and put proper (tuned) flat springs in. It has a very fine action with a 3 1/2 lb. hammer draw, just under 3 lb. trigger pull. I installed a bolt block, action stop and sculpted the bolt head for earlier than normal entry into the locking notch and to protect the notches from damage.
It is a joy to shoot and the easiest handling Colt Mod.P style revolver I've ever owned. A good looking revolver.

Mike
www.goonsgunworks.com

 

[DPris]

At your salary level, you COULDA had both a V8 AND a real Colt!
Denis

 

[Normandy]

I have a Uberti El Patron .45 Colt with bird head grips and 3" barrel. Absolutely gorgeous gun, and the walnut grips are checkered. Awesome smooth action, sweet trigger, and very accurate. No problems with it in the 4 or 5 years I've owned it. I bought it new/used at a gun show, and had no experience with the Uberti line at all. I was quite pleasantly surprised.
The case colored frame is lovely, and the bluing on the cylinder and barrel is deep. After a couple hundred rounds, the cylinder still doesn't show a turn line.
I consider the quality to be about equal to a Colt.

 

[CraigC]

I use the information that the Uberti handles the standard 14k max psi load...

It 'could' be argued that since the Uberti's are offered as .45ACP's, that they too are safe for 21,000psi loads. Although I probably wouldn't make a habit of it.

I consider the quality to be about equal to a Colt.

I don't. Uberti builds good guns and I have a bunch of them (9 at present count, including one I had engraved and finished by Turnbull) but they are not equal to a Colt. Which is not equal to a USFA (sorry Denis) ). The present SAA's are perhaps the best they've ever been.

After a couple hundred rounds, the cylinder still doesn't show a turn line.

As long as the hammer is never lowered from the half cock notch, it should never show a turn line.

 

[DPris]

Uberti quality is in no way equal to a Colt.
And the Patrone's sole claim to "tuned" fame is the springs Uberti installs.
Otherwise, the gun gets no special treatment internally.
Denis