JFrank
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That wasn’t necessarily posted for anyone in particular, and it wasn’t just about tuners but more about nodes and anti nodes and how to interpret them. I don’t use tuners either but I’m getting better at reading anti nodes.
Thanks, but while I appreciate the discussion, I was really not looking for an in depth discussion on developing the load. Only how differently the bullets grouped using the same powder/loads.P
Not Knowing what powder charges are implemented or what increments they are dispensed I’ can ask for more information before completely disqualifying all three rows.
Barrel twist rate ?
Powder increments ?
This is awesome’ four pages of useless blather responding to a thread. LMAO brother you made my day..Thanks, but while I appreciate the discussion, I was really not looking for an in depth discussion on developing the load. Only how differently the bullets grouped using the same powder/loads.
And sorry for the slow responses. I'm in our RV down at our club's dirt bike camp, helping run our 49th annual enduro here in the Ozarks. So lots of woods time, not much internet time for the next few days.
Yup, I believe it was Varminterror who posted this video awhile back on another thread.Garbage in = Garbage out
FMJ bullets in general, even if Berger made them, are not consistent. You could go through all the steps of processing a perfect case, using the perfect powder charge with the best primer in the world, but the results will always have a wide dispersion if you are using a bullet with inconsistencies.
I like Eric's videos.Varm
Yup, I believe it was Varminterror who posted this video awhile back on another thread.
1. Combustion
2. Harmonics
3. Consistent BC
Precision reloading is easy. YOU complicate it!
We as humans have a tendency to complicate things, and reloading is no different. For some reason, we think that the more complicated it is, the better the ...www.youtube.com
if you want 1/4 MOA or better, go buy Berger and Lapua, and build $5K rifles.
What he didn't address is those that don't want to spend $1-2 per round when out shooting.
Well the OP’s top row were 52 gr Sierra Match Kings ( a good bullet) shot from a quality firearm, so in my mind this is perfect example of a poor powder/ charge rate combination and could very easily show 4/5 of those targets in an anti node /scatter node .
we’ll never know because the charges are not listed and the OP bailed out.
I’m still chuckling…
What's the goal for this load with these bullets? What are you wanting to do with the rifle? What does "success" look like in this particular pursuit?
I'm just realizing - but on Page 1 - I responded to THIS goal stated by the OP that NOTHING on the board appears to want to deliver to the need. Scrap the whole thing...Success is repeatable, sub-.300 5 shot groups at 100yds.
Tired how?This is one of the most tired paradigms among the shooting world...
What works for a $5k rifle works for a $500 rifle too. But chasing smoke and making up theories for how to imagine one load is better than another doesn't work for either of them.
Chasing magic which doesn't make a racecar go any faster won't make a Honda Civic go any faster either.
This thread is about how bullets matter, which applies to all rifles when shooting for accuracy.
Tired how?
You keep wanting to bring the discussion back to load development and statistics. I think we understand your point.
This thread is about how bullets matter, which applies to all rifles when shooting for accuracy.
I did not "bail out". I just don't care to get any more specific with the recipes. Sorry if that disappoints you.Well the OP’s top row were 52 gr Sierra Match Kings ( a good bullet) shot from a quality firearm, so in my mind this is perfect example of a poor powder/ charge rate combination and could very easily show 4/5 of those targets in an anti node /scatter node .
we’ll never know because the charges are not listed and the OP bailed out.
I’m still chuckling…
I can respect and appreciate that. I too have made many posted asking general questions only to be bombarded by the response, "We cant's help you id we don't have all the specifics." when the specifics have zero bearing on the question. And no, it's not just here on this forum nor does it pertain to just guns.I did not "bail out". I just don't care to get any more specific with the recipes. Sorry if that disappoints you.
Nah’ I'm not disappointed , I think it’s kinda humorous that several members including myself began as you say a deep discussion on load development when you as the OP really were not interested in going that direction.I did not "bail out". I just don't care to get any more specific with the recipes. Sorry if that disappoints you.
Good. No injuries so far. We had the kids and super short races yesterday. We give all the kids free entry, a t-shirt and snacks. We really try hard to encourage the next generation of riders. The big race is today, starts a 8am (8:01 technically). 66 miles of rocky Ozark goodness! Weather is awesome for it. Thanks for asking.Nah’ I'm not disappointed , I think it’s kinda humorous that several members including myself began as you say a deep discussion on load development when you as the OP really were not interested in going that direction.
No matter there’s still readers that draw good information from these threads.
How’s the trail riding going ? Hope all is well.
J
Personally, I think that is kind of harsh. I feel sure everyone that contributed was just trying to teach/help. I found the discussion to be interesting, and will dig in more once I get home from camp.What I found humorous was the OP starting a thread about BULLET choice, and a few insist on making it something different (per usual)…
And then getting defensive when their “big” words and regurgitative responses don’t get taken as “THE ONLY WAY”……..